From exhausting helpers the 1st couple days to worrying about their hours the next...

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by selfcancelsignal, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Make up your GD mind mgmt.!
  2. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    They are expendable.
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

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  4. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    That too, use and chuck it!
  5. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    So I am a verb now?
  6. moldsporh

    moldsporh Active Member

    Why are helpers being exhausted? Are you running them into the ground? Use proper methods and procedures, they shouldn't have to run. When you deliver a stop, they can walk to the next house at the same time, or a nearby stop.

    I agree, these people come here for less pay than Mcdonalds, deal with the cold, etc....and waste their day for 3 to 4 hrs pay.

    We used to keep them all day, helped with business, pickups, houses, and at the end of the day, the end of the week, end of the peak...we weren't beat to the ground. We were able to develop a rhythm and even stay out late helping other drivers.

    Now we can only pick them up later in the day since we're only allowed so many hours, resulting in the driver fighting a bricked truck for the first 4 hours of the day getting way behind.

    We used to try to make heads or tales of the truck, sort a small section, while the helper ran a stop so we could focus on the load.

    Not now..... we're told we can have the helper for 3 hrs and they expect you to finish since. ...

    "You only had 80 more stops and a helper for 3 hrs"

    Yeah, with a nice load and only 80 more stops that would work, but you gave me a huge mess that I had to deal with by myself with no helper that you are ignoring since I can't use a helper until after lunch based on hours avail.

    They are so freaking deliberately ignorant most of the time it's beyond words.
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  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    F that. This is what I expect from my helper.
  8. moldsporh

    moldsporh Active Member

    You're the reason they don't get alot of hours and why most of us have more than double the work.

    Doesn't bother me though.
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yeah right their numbers tell them what to do. They pay no attention to actual performance.
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  10. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    I wouldn't let my helper move any faster than I do. My pace leaves something to be desired at my age and physical condition!
    Learned a long time ago that the more stops you bang out the more you get the next day.
    Stay safe out there. Hoping the doctor releases me on the 26th.
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  11. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    We had a helper this week that crapped his pants and worked like that for hours. Driver smelled something but didn't want to be rude. After he dropped the helper of he checked the seat and it had poop all over it. They had to clean the truck and remove the seat and treat it as a biohazard. The driver called off the next day.

    Just when you think you've seen it all something else comes along.
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  12. I think you misunderstood me. They were working helpers M-W as many hours as they wanted/needed to git 'r done at our center. Then all of a sudden Thursday, they started micro managing the use of helpers ridiculously!
  13. freelabor

    freelabor Member

    haven't followed the whole helper for 3 hrs bs. when i get my helper i ask what time they want to go home, then we get the party started.
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  14. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    I keep my helper until I get done, I don't look at the suggested amount of time on their paper time card I get.
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  15. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    if I get a helper, I'm keeping him/her all day.
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Thursday I was allowed 3.67 helper hours and used him for 5.99. center manager told me on Friday that I am to follow their plan. Friday I was allowed 5.5 and used him for 5.49---the problem was their dispatched stops used to determine the 5.5 was off by 21 stops. I should have been allowed 7.5 hours.

    The part that frustrates me is that I have been running at least an hour under which means that I have been using my helper effectively.

    Most of the guys in the center are like you---they use them til they are done.

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Sometimes you have to tell them the consequences of their actions.
    One call saying that you are dropping off your helper at the scheduled time, AND BY THE WAY I will need an air meet, ground meet and will be over 11.
    OR I can keep him for another hour and a half and get my truck back in time. They will always let you keep the helper.

    Those stops per hour they think you can do can't be attained in a blown out truck with irregs down the middle.
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  18. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    No helper for me...yet. I'd rather not have one.
  19. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    On some routes helpers are a waste but UPS will still insist you have one and load you up with a ton more stops. Some routes a helper makes a big difference but other routes they end up slowing you down but UPS will try to pretend all routes are equal.