G.O.P. Debate 11-22-11

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by moreluck, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    One funny part was when Cain slipped and called Wolf Blitzer, Blitz. Wolf returned the favor and said, "Thanks, Cain". It was cute.
    I think both Mitt and Newt did well.
     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I think Ron Paul has done well ... they all seem to be doing well tonight.
    Even Herman impressed with his Iran comments.
     
  3. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    I have always liked some of Ron Paul's positions, but there also has always been something I can't put my finger on that bothers me about him. Over all he's pretty damn consistent. This all goes back way before this election cycle.
     
  4. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    I agree with the can't put my finger on. I pick up the same gut feeling.
     
  5. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Texan and Trp,

    Here is a website with hundreds of articles actually penned by Ron Paul himself on a wide variety of subjects. These may answer your questions regarding Ron and leave you with a positive or negative opinion of the man but you will have judged him by his own words. Many of these articles may also give further clarity on some of the positions he's taken as seen for example in the debates but time restraints don't allow for depth on the subject.

    Fair warning, the articles "about Ron" at the link tend for the most part to be positive if not puff pieces so there you go but the articles "by Ron" are from the man himself. Hope they serve in a helpful capacity either way.
     
  6. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I think I know what causes that unsettling feeling. To me it's obvious ...

    he's from TEXAS.
     
  7. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    He is but he's nothing like all those OTHER TEXICAN'S!
    :wink2:
     
  8. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    Now why would that be it?
     
  9. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    If by all those other Texicans you mean George , George and Rick, you would be right.
     
  10. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    One question I have about RP, if he were to be elected PotUS would he remain a republican or would he switch back to Libertarian ?
     
  11. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    First & Foremost, he'd be a Texan.......that's usually all we need to know.......that makes him a good guy. I'm leaning to Mitt or Newt, whoever gets the nomination.
     
  12. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    This is my opinion, you're not going to change it so don't bother preaching....

    I think Newt lost on one point in talking with Mitt. It was all the amnesty talk. Newt said, well, if a guy is here illegally and he's here 25 years with children and paying taxes, we shouldn't split up the family. We don't have to split up the family....they can all go with him to his birthplace.

    Mitt said that a form of amnesty like that is a magnet for others to come and do the same. I agree. Remember they gave Perry crap about paying for tuition for illegals. Newt's going to have to explain this further or drop it. It's the academia coming out in him. This is where I think Newt would make a good balance as a veep for Romney.
     
  13. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    First off, what if he did because the question you should ask yourself, "Am I voting for Ron because he's republican or I'm voting for Ron for his ideas and principles?"

    Secondly, I'll never say never because for one thing, you never know what the party might do or advocate in the future but all things being equal, I don't see that. Had he wanted to do something like that then 2008' was a prime moment because a lot of pressure was put on Ron to run 3rd party and he refused. Whether Ron is presidential material or not is still open to debate and I still think at this moment Jones has it right that at the end of the day Romney will be the party guy but Ron is steering the debate among the masses. Even those who once trashed Ron are having to admit he makes them think and some of his ideas have merit and are refreshing. This is happening as much among conservatives and it is among liberals so we need to ask ourselves a much bigger question in what and how can both conservatives and liberals both agree when it comes to Ron Paul who is suppose to be so extreme and divisive?

    Maybe those who claim extreme and divisive have self interests to protect and those interests harm both conservatives and liberals equally!

    Hmmmm!
     
  14. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I have to disagree on this.

    I think it is the es sense of humanity coming out from him.

    This is the very issue that has bothered me the most about unilaterally throwing them all back across the river into Mexico.

    I agree with what most of them are saying and that is secure the border now and then we work out what to do with the existing people in the US.

    If the National and State governments repealed all the Social programs that is causing the most uproar, then the isue sort of melts away.

    That is, the real issue is the Socialism that exists in the US ... not the hard-working people coming here looking for an opportunity to get ahead in life by hard work.
     
  15. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    Ron Paul is not a native Texan.

    Ron Paul was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in 1935, and raised in PA.

    It was not until 1968 that he moved to Texas.
     
  16. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Neither was daddy or baby Bush but everyone calls them Texans. I wasn't born in Georgia but yet I'm called and I call myself a Georgian so get over it!

    Besides no one called anyone native to begin with although in Rick Perry's case, he is!
     
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I was just joshing ... but Texans do ... oh, never mind.
     
  18. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    You're a peach!
     
  19. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    And I've been known to eat them too!
    :winks:
     
  20. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Socialism? Please tell me how we are even remotely "socialist". There is a huge gulf between that which is progressive, and that which is socialist. You are mis-using the word. Obama isn't even close.