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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 687216" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Maybe so but I'm not so trusting of him yet. Boldin might email Beck <a href="http://www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/02/ridicule-of-conspiracy-theories-focuses.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">this link </span></a>for him to consider.</p><p></p><p>All the 9/11 conspiracy stuff aside, so much of it is speculation and in many cases a lot of grasping at straws but would it be of use for Beck to consider the <span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101beforepinkpony&scale=0#a091101beforepinkpony" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">western Hedonistic Debauchery</span> </a></span><span style="color: black">of some of the 9/11 hijackers leading up to the infamous act? How does this lifestyle mess into the narrative of the idealistic, purist, islamic zealot out for Heavenly glory and glory to Allah by striking down the infidels and their western hedonism?</span></p><p></p><p>Our gov't using or engaging in mischief and creating scenarios for the purpose of staging war? And War for oil? Would the gov't create an event to use as a pretext to enter a war? Absolutely, Gulf of Tonkin by McNamara's own admission. See Google Video, see the movie "The Fog of War" where he flat out admits it.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/pov/camden28/special_zinn_02.php" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">The Pentagon Papers</span> </a>where they clearly admit among other things that the real pretext to war in Vietnam goes all the way back to 1941' Sec. of State Hull and the importance of tin, rubber and (wait for it)....OIL! Oh but that's the words of that communist liberal Howard Zinn. Yep, sure is, in an Amercian courtroom, sitting in the witness chair under oath in front of a hostile gov't prosecutor waiting for any excuse to yell objection and stop his testimony at the first wrong move. Think about that as you read it, if you dare.</p><p></p><p>So if situations were fabricated for Vietnam, also very likely for WW2 and Japan for getting us into a war not to mention Wilson's own action's in WW1, should we ignore completely suggestions that 9/11 was another contrived event for the pretext of war? People can do strange things and act very badly when presented with motive and opportunity together and with 9/11, I do think it possible that the event itself, even purely accidential if you will did provide the perfect opportunity and pretext to seek out the means to use in achieving other desired ends. Could the failures of security to catch these guys ahead of time been allowed to happen but it was never fully realized they could actually pull off on 9/11 what they did. If you ask that question then go the next step and ask, could the surprised look on Bush's face been one not of knowing what would happen but rather knowing they were here but never believing they could actually pull something like this off. Could they have expected a bunch of botched events and then using the botchery as the pretext for war? Not unlike the situation in Yemen and the rubber bomber is it? Opps, this time it's O-Bomb-A! Does it seem beyond the pale that our gov't would in fact <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100303003333/http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/60519" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">let these people run amuck willy-nilly</span></a> hoping to catch them in the act or obtain further information to use later?</p><p></p><p>I also believe a lot of the current war talk with Iran is a part of a larger agenda and that attempting to <a href="http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20255" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">provoke events</span> </a>for a war pretext is not beyond or unworthy of consideration at all. Was provocation by means of <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/23/opinion/23iht-edcool.t.html?pagewanted=1" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Kuwait and slant drilling</span> </a>(circa Dec. 1997') another US contrived event to a specific end? WW2, OIL? Vietnam, OIL? Gulf War 1, OIL? Gulf War 2, OIL? Iran, OIL? Afghanistan, gateway to Caspian Sea Oil? <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD201A.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">It was about Terrorsim!</span></a> Israel/Gaza, OIL? <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11680" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">WHAT THE!!!!</span></a> Cuba, OIL? <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10601" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">You're kidding!</span></a></p><p>Doth a pattern emerge here? <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9670" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Who</span></a> has a real vested interest here? Could we be about keeping oil off the market for <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10710" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">the purpose of price support</span></a>?</p><p></p><p>Would Glen dare even brush against much less touch any of these issues? Unlike Hannity and Limbaugh who dangle out on the limb only to get the listener out there and then yank them back, even scold them on air for using logic and dare to take freedom and liberty to their logical ends. Glen will follow the masses to some extent but he brutalized Ron Paul early in his Presidential run only later once the obvious started coming clear of a shifting conservative movement that he then started trumpeting the bandwagon so to speak. He's still clearly in the Red State corner when it comes to war but I hear his economics are a bit more Austrian than Keynesian these days. I said a bit, he not anarcho-capitalist by any stretch. Unless his audience goes there, he won't take the lead so IMO this speaks volumes so much for his ideals and principles.</p><p></p><p>Well we fnally got snow between 2 and 4 inches and still coming down but starting to taper off. It sure is pretty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 687216, member: 2189"] Maybe so but I'm not so trusting of him yet. Boldin might email Beck [URL='http://www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/02/ridicule-of-conspiracy-theories-focuses.html'][COLOR=red]this link [/COLOR][/URL]for him to consider. All the 9/11 conspiracy stuff aside, so much of it is speculation and in many cases a lot of grasping at straws but would it be of use for Beck to consider the [COLOR=red][URL='http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101beforepinkpony&scale=0#a091101beforepinkpony'][COLOR=red]western Hedonistic Debauchery[/COLOR] [/URL][/COLOR][COLOR=black]of some of the 9/11 hijackers leading up to the infamous act? How does this lifestyle mess into the narrative of the idealistic, purist, islamic zealot out for Heavenly glory and glory to Allah by striking down the infidels and their western hedonism?[/COLOR] Our gov't using or engaging in mischief and creating scenarios for the purpose of staging war? And War for oil? Would the gov't create an event to use as a pretext to enter a war? Absolutely, Gulf of Tonkin by McNamara's own admission. See Google Video, see the movie "The Fog of War" where he flat out admits it. [URL='http://www.pbs.org/pov/camden28/special_zinn_02.php'][COLOR=red]The Pentagon Papers[/COLOR] [/URL]where they clearly admit among other things that the real pretext to war in Vietnam goes all the way back to 1941' Sec. of State Hull and the importance of tin, rubber and (wait for it)....OIL! Oh but that's the words of that communist liberal Howard Zinn. Yep, sure is, in an Amercian courtroom, sitting in the witness chair under oath in front of a hostile gov't prosecutor waiting for any excuse to yell objection and stop his testimony at the first wrong move. Think about that as you read it, if you dare. So if situations were fabricated for Vietnam, also very likely for WW2 and Japan for getting us into a war not to mention Wilson's own action's in WW1, should we ignore completely suggestions that 9/11 was another contrived event for the pretext of war? People can do strange things and act very badly when presented with motive and opportunity together and with 9/11, I do think it possible that the event itself, even purely accidential if you will did provide the perfect opportunity and pretext to seek out the means to use in achieving other desired ends. Could the failures of security to catch these guys ahead of time been allowed to happen but it was never fully realized they could actually pull off on 9/11 what they did. If you ask that question then go the next step and ask, could the surprised look on Bush's face been one not of knowing what would happen but rather knowing they were here but never believing they could actually pull something like this off. Could they have expected a bunch of botched events and then using the botchery as the pretext for war? Not unlike the situation in Yemen and the rubber bomber is it? Opps, this time it's O-Bomb-A! Does it seem beyond the pale that our gov't would in fact [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20100303003333/http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/60519'][COLOR=red]let these people run amuck willy-nilly[/COLOR][/URL] hoping to catch them in the act or obtain further information to use later? I also believe a lot of the current war talk with Iran is a part of a larger agenda and that attempting to [URL='http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20255'][COLOR=red]provoke events[/COLOR] [/URL]for a war pretext is not beyond or unworthy of consideration at all. Was provocation by means of [URL='http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/23/opinion/23iht-edcool.t.html?pagewanted=1'][COLOR=red]Kuwait and slant drilling[/COLOR] [/URL](circa Dec. 1997') another US contrived event to a specific end? WW2, OIL? Vietnam, OIL? Gulf War 1, OIL? Gulf War 2, OIL? Iran, OIL? Afghanistan, gateway to Caspian Sea Oil? [URL='http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD201A.html'][COLOR=red]It was about Terrorsim![/COLOR][/URL] Israel/Gaza, OIL? [URL='http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11680'][COLOR=red]WHAT THE!!!![/COLOR][/URL] Cuba, OIL? [URL='http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10601'][COLOR=red]You're kidding![/COLOR][/URL] Doth a pattern emerge here? [URL='http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9670'][COLOR=red]Who[/COLOR][/URL] has a real vested interest here? Could we be about keeping oil off the market for [URL='http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10710'][COLOR=red]the purpose of price support[/COLOR][/URL]? Would Glen dare even brush against much less touch any of these issues? Unlike Hannity and Limbaugh who dangle out on the limb only to get the listener out there and then yank them back, even scold them on air for using logic and dare to take freedom and liberty to their logical ends. Glen will follow the masses to some extent but he brutalized Ron Paul early in his Presidential run only later once the obvious started coming clear of a shifting conservative movement that he then started trumpeting the bandwagon so to speak. He's still clearly in the Red State corner when it comes to war but I hear his economics are a bit more Austrian than Keynesian these days. I said a bit, he not anarcho-capitalist by any stretch. Unless his audience goes there, he won't take the lead so IMO this speaks volumes so much for his ideals and principles. Well we fnally got snow between 2 and 4 inches and still coming down but starting to taper off. It sure is pretty. [/QUOTE]
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