Go Rand Paul

wkmac

Well-Known Member
ACLU backing Rand's filibuster and actor John Cusack is calling folk out.

Glad to see the lines of division blurr to call out that rat bastard murderer that now occupies the WH. Hope we get a war crimes trial one day, throw in the Bush regime and get us a 2 for 1 deal! Saddam and Osama have to be laughing their asses off at us about now and rightly so!
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Why not just introduce legislation to ban the use of drones on Americans on American soil? Or does that come after the political posturing of one aiming for the White House?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Why not just introduce legislation to ban the use of drones on Americans on American soil? Or does that come after the political posturing of one aiming for the White House?

Because Reid has already said......nothing will get done 'til after the '14 elections. So, tactics come into play!!
 

wkmac

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Why not just introduce legislation to ban the use of drones on Americans on American soil? Or does that come after the political posturing of one aiming for the White House?

On the former, you could. On the latter, likely. The much larger point is the fact that such forces (and is) the conversation out into the living rooms, coffee shops and work places of America and it's also blurring the lines of the false construct of party politics. People are seeing the state more for what it is and this causes a rethinking. I've talked with several Obama supporters who now admit they are done with the 2 party state and will go 3rd party from now on. That's a start!

I'm not convinced Rand would be in the well of the Senate if Obama the murderer was a republican, I never drank Rand's tea (pun intended) just because of his last name. But then if Obama was a GOPer, the title of this thread would have been "GO HARRY REID" and more and more average Americans are waking up to just how true that statement really is. Thus what we see in Washington is pure theater.

In one sense, Obama has really been a good President for America because he has opened more eyes as to the horrific, evil nature of the state and the lies that can be told to perpetuate it. Many of those eyes are on the left side the isle too. And even those on the so-called right are having to face the contradictions. How is Obama a marxist, socialist, uber lefty loon when under his watch this happens? Or could it be that Wall Street itself is marxist, socialist too?
 

wkmac

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wkmac

Well-Known Member
Glenn Jacobs otherwise popularly known as Kane of WWE wrestling fame has written an open response to Sen. Maggot otherwise known as Lindsey Graham in regards to the filibuster by Rand Paul. Glenn rightly makes a good point in how so much legislation or policy passed in the corridors of power for one thing become warped and abused for other purposes not intended once applied in power.

And concerning my calling Graham and McCain maggots, first I'd like to again apologize to maggots everywhere but more important, the people in Washington have become more and more adapt at making sport of demonizing the people of America across all strata of society. It's way pass time we start demonizing and belittling them back and I intend to do so when opportunity arises.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
I keep thinking about that sign on the I-15 on the way to Vegas.......don't know exactly where, but Jeremy rings a bell. It's been saying "Ron Paul for pres. for years". He's going to have to repaint his sign for Rand.

I think now that Jeremy's may be the name of his garage/market/home of "The Hills Have Eyes" gang. Anyone who has driven I-15 to Vegas knows where the Ron Paul sign is.....it's famous like Rock-a-Hula park in Newberry Springs and the ZZYZX Rd. sign right outside of Baker..
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I keep thinking about that sign on the I-15 on the way to Vegas.......don't know exactly where, but Jeremy rings a bell. It's been saying "Ron Paul for pres. for years". He's going to have to repaint his sign for Rand.

I think now that Jeremy's may be the name of his garage/market/home of "The Hills Have Eyes" gang. Anyone who has driven I-15 to Vegas knows where the Ron Paul sign is.....it's famous like Rock-a-Hula park in Newberry Springs and the ZZYZX Rd. sign right outside of Baker..

Just paint over the "on" in Ron and it's good to go.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Glenn Greenwald on the Rand Paul filibuster.

Since OWS protesters have been accused by "officials" of being terrorists, further echoed by the none thinking public other wise known as suckers. Holder's assurances that no American outside the "combat" narrative framework comes off to me as being very hollow. From the Greenwald piece:

Defenders of the Obama administration now insist that this entire controversy has been resolved by a letter written to Paul by Attorney General Eric Holder, in which Holder wrote: "It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: 'Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?' The answer to that question is no." Despite Paul's declaration of victory, this carefully crafted statement tells us almost nothing about the actual controversy.As Law Professor Ryan Goodman wrote yesterday in the New York Times, "the Obama administration, like the Bush administration before it, has acted with an overly broad definition of what it means to be engaged in combat." That phrase - "engaged in combat" - does not only include people who are engaged in violence at the time you detain or kill them. It includes a huge array of people who we would not normally think of, using common language, as being "engaged in combat".
Indeed, the whole point of the Paul filibuster was to ask whether the Obama administration believes that it has the power to target a US citizen for assassination on US soil the way it did to Anwar Awlaki in Yemen. The Awlaki assassination was justified on the ground that Awlaki was a "combatant", that he was "engaged in combat", even though he was killed not while making bombs or shooting at anyone but after he had left a cafe where he had breakfast. If the Obama administration believes that Awlaki was "engaged in combat" at the time he was killed - and it clearly does - then Holder's letter is meaningless at best, and menacing at worst, because that standard is so broad as to vest the president with exactly the power his supporters now insist he disclaimed.
The phrase "engaged in combat" has come to mean little more than: anyone the President accuses, in secrecy and with no due process, of supporting a Terrorist group. Indeed, radically broad definitions of "enemy combatant" have been at the heart of every War on Terror policy, from Guantanamo to CIA black sites to torture.

Labeling a bunch of impressionable kids at an OWS encampment as terrorists is just flat wrong but then once tagged, it's not a stretch for some sociopathic, megalomaniac, those in power or do I repeat myself, to then ramp up the spin and narrative and these kids could see death from above. Once done, if the Tea Party rallies begin to rattle the wrong cages, what stops the same from taking place with them?

Protecting those who say things you don't want to hear is often the means of protecting yourself when you say things they don't want to hear. Don't allow the state to use divide and conquer and then everyone loses.
 
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