Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addressed?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by chuchu, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. chuchu

    chuchu Guest

    For way too many years a senior management person has gotten away with screaming, throwing things, beating on our vehicles with their fist to get us to "get out of the building" and finally allegedly assulted another management sup (by the sups own testimony). The union BA talked alot about filing labor charges against the company (over 50% of the centers grvnces were on this person) but never seemed to find the backbone to get it done. Losing our members grievance documentation and empty words was all we could seem to precipitate from all the union "effort" we got. Finally, after the management person lunged in a couple of employees faces during a discussion we got all the testimonies together and had a talk with the city prosecutor about the chronic violence in the center. That evidently helped us more than all the 800 phone calls (keep the refer. numbers from those calls for evidence and call from a pay phone or at LEAST someone elses phone besides yours or another UPS employee!) because we had ties from all over the state come in to talk with us. Don't be afraid to go out of the UPS "kingdom" to fix unprofessional behavior if your local mgmnt team won't stop it. "The law is for the lawless". Stand up for yourself even when the union doesn't come through because right is RIGHT every day. Even if you don't see it immediately you'll see change if you don't give up.
     
  2. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    The ties don't want this crap out in publc/media. There are to many trails for the company to deny they did not know, in the public eye. Its an embrassment for them. Destroy the company image you destroy the company. In the ups world this is big. Shows a possibe cover up by upper management at division and district level. Tell your co worker get disposable phones and call the hot line number that way.
     
  3. Scuderia

    Scuderia Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    If you ever have to defend yourself, remember that the law states that you should only use as much force as necessary to stop the attack. Not more, or else you won't be able to use the "self defense" defense. So for example, if you punch him once and knock him out, leave it at that. Don't jump on top of him and start throwing hammer punches.
     
  4. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Rally up some solid technique and situation control, it only takes about four distinct movements and two seconds to disable someone. :)
     
  5. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    So which district did this mgmt person get transferred to and how many accolades were recieved for the behaviour ? ;p
     
  6. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    My district, if he's bipolar.
     
  7. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Ummm Cellular Camera phone's, end of story.
     
  8. robot

    robot Large Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    If you beat one of your supe's asses off the clock and off property can you get fired for it?
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    I don't know--why don't you do it and let us know how it works out for you?

    Oh, and be sure to tell us if he kicks your ass.:happy2:




    Just kidding---yes, you would be fired.
     
  10. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    I want that answer!
     
  11. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    I`ve heard of it happening. Sup gets mouthy. Sup hits ground. Witnesses say he slipped. Ooopsy.

    I have a few on my list that I better not run into once the retirement checks start coming.
     
  12. robot

    robot Large Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Haha! I was just wondering. I'm not confrontational but Ive wanted to strangle a few of my supes on occasion.
     
  13. Somepeoplecallmethestig

    Somepeoplecallmethestig Are you not amused?

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    I would asssume when you are in jail UPS would fire you for not showing up.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    I do have a few customers whom I would love to have a chat with upon retiring.
     
  15. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Only if you get caught:knockedout:

    Disclaimer: I am in no way condoning violence against anyone:happy2:
     
  16. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Years ago I saw my brother-in-law (who is also a retired UPS 30 year package driver) and our center manager get into a knock down drag out at a local saloon. center manager got the worst of it. Nothing was ever said at work and the center manager didn't put a target on his back (probably because the center manager threw the first punch and there were too many witnesses). center manager was a notorious drunk and was going through a divorce. Eventually he was "let go" by the company. The fight was over a female UPS driver they were both hussling. Brother-in-law eventually married her -------------------------so he lost the fight in the long run.
     
  17. worthlessdriver

    worthlessdriver New Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    Our center manager posts the accident/injury data within our district on a daily basis. Yesterday there was a Tier 3 accident (pedestrian) and 6 injuries. What is alarming is that 3 of the injuries were reported as assualt/violence and that all 3 were in Massachusetts. I assume that these occured in the hub and not on road---does anyone from this area have any information on these injuries?
     
  19. splozi

    splozi Guest

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    There are a couple of irreg drivers at my center that I wouldn't mind knocking out. Or, you know, if they die in a fire... that would be awesome too.
     
  20. Omega man

    Omega man Active Member

    Re: Got a problem with violence in the workplace (by mgmnt) that's not getting addres

    It is much more lasting to just beat them up with their numbers every day.