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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 579547" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>As a former spelunker (from the vertical stuff) whose done "a few" vertical drops I can appreciate a good rope!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p></p><p>Something I ran across from Nobel Economist Paul Krugman who is a dedicated Keynesian and defender of all things "liberal" as skewed as that word is (same for conservative) but Krugman wrote recently on the Healthcare debate in the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/opinion/31krugman.html?_r=2" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">NY Times</span></a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I love it when they slip up and tell the truth. Even in the "Disinformation" Youtube video you posted in another thread, Congressman Mike Pence who has some good qualities again makes the fatal error of his own disinformation in taking about the so-called "free market" in health care. Krugman is correct but would he go the next step and admit the interventionism of the gov't in the market has actually led to the current crisis and not the erruption of the often evil portrayed <span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">"free market".</span> </a><span style="color: black">In defense of Pence (hey were rapping!) his "mistake" is a often easily repeated one but in so doing IMO it only fuels the confusion and makes it easy for the Krugmans of the world to malign Laissez Faire while worshipping Keynes.</span> </span></p><p></p><p>One can only enter the healthcare "free market" only after getting the "State Required" educational background, pass "State Required" certification and testing and then obtain other appropiate State license and pay certain State fees, then one can hang out the shingle. And who spearheaded this gov't intervention? Why don't you start with the American Medical Association and work from there. For the last century or so, there's not been a <a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1081816" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">true free market in medical care</span> </a>in this country and it's pure fantasy to even say so. Now the pressures of intervention in so many areas are coming into play and like the interventions of the economic bubble, the good ole' free market provides a perfect scapegoat while allows the real culprit to lay in the shadows to strike it's victims again and again.</p><p></p><p>Cudos to Krugman for being truthful in this case because in others he's been just as fast to ignore the footprint of gov't and blame the illusion of "free market". Then again, even the Statist can't be depended on to follow the script as written all the time!</p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 579547, member: 2189"] As a former spelunker (from the vertical stuff) whose done "a few" vertical drops I can appreciate a good rope! :happy-very: Something I ran across from Nobel Economist Paul Krugman who is a dedicated Keynesian and defender of all things "liberal" as skewed as that word is (same for conservative) but Krugman wrote recently on the Healthcare debate in the [URL='http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/opinion/31krugman.html?_r=2'][COLOR=red]NY Times[/COLOR][/URL]. I love it when they slip up and tell the truth. Even in the "Disinformation" Youtube video you posted in another thread, Congressman Mike Pence who has some good qualities again makes the fatal error of his own disinformation in taking about the so-called "free market" in health care. Krugman is correct but would he go the next step and admit the interventionism of the gov't in the market has actually led to the current crisis and not the erruption of the often evil portrayed [COLOR=red][URL='http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html'][COLOR=red]"free market".[/COLOR] [/URL][COLOR=black]In defense of Pence (hey were rapping!) his "mistake" is a often easily repeated one but in so doing IMO it only fuels the confusion and makes it easy for the Krugmans of the world to malign Laissez Faire while worshipping Keynes.[/COLOR] [/COLOR] One can only enter the healthcare "free market" only after getting the "State Required" educational background, pass "State Required" certification and testing and then obtain other appropiate State license and pay certain State fees, then one can hang out the shingle. And who spearheaded this gov't intervention? Why don't you start with the American Medical Association and work from there. For the last century or so, there's not been a [URL='http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1081816'][COLOR=red]true free market in medical care[/COLOR] [/URL]in this country and it's pure fantasy to even say so. Now the pressures of intervention in so many areas are coming into play and like the interventions of the economic bubble, the good ole' free market provides a perfect scapegoat while allows the real culprit to lay in the shadows to strike it's victims again and again. Cudos to Krugman for being truthful in this case because in others he's been just as fast to ignore the footprint of gov't and blame the illusion of "free market". Then again, even the Statist can't be depended on to follow the script as written all the time! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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