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<blockquote data-quote="moreluck" data-source="post: 915861" data-attributes="member: 1246"><p>December 20, 2011 @ 12:24 pm <strong>|</strong> <a href="http://weaselzippers.us/2011/12/20/politifact-names-dems-attacks-on-ryan-medicare-proposal-lie-of-the-year/" target="_blank">Politifact Names Dems Attacks On Ryan Medicare Proposal “Lie Of The Year”…</a></p><p>Via <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/200491-attacks-on-ryan-medicare-proposal-named-lie-of-the-year" target="_blank">Healthwatch</a>:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">The claim that House Republicans’ budget would end Medicare is the “lie of the year,” according to the fact-checking website Politifact.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">According to Politifact’s <a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/20/lie-year-democrats-claims-republicans-voted-end-me/" target="_blank">analysis</a>, saying the Ryan plan “ends Medicare” overlooks the fact that its changes would not affect people 55 and older. Politifact also said Medicare would remain in existence, but in a different form — which Ryan’s critics say is the same thing as ending Medicare.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Democrats and liberals slammed the decision and stood by the contention that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) proposal would end Medicare.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">“It seems foolish to have to parse the meaning of the word ‘end,’ but if there’s a program, and it’s replaced with a different program, proponents brought an end to the original program,” liberal <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/politifact_ought_to_be_ashamed034211.php" target="_blank">blogger</a> Steve Benen wrote at the Washington Monthly. “That’s what the verb means.”</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Under Ryan’s plan, the existing Medicare program would be replaced with a system in which the federal government provides seniors with subsidies to buy private insurance.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">“The very definition of the Medicare program is a national health insurance program for seniors which House Republicans would abolish under their budget,” the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee said in an earlier rebuttal of Politifact’s analysis of the Ryan plan.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moreluck, post: 915861, member: 1246"] December 20, 2011 @ 12:24 pm [B]|[/B] [URL='http://weaselzippers.us/2011/12/20/politifact-names-dems-attacks-on-ryan-medicare-proposal-lie-of-the-year/']Politifact Names Dems Attacks On Ryan Medicare Proposal “Lie Of The Year”…[/URL] Via [URL='http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/200491-attacks-on-ryan-medicare-proposal-named-lie-of-the-year']Healthwatch[/URL]: [INDENT]The claim that House Republicans’ budget would end Medicare is the “lie of the year,” according to the fact-checking website Politifact. According to Politifact’s [URL='http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/20/lie-year-democrats-claims-republicans-voted-end-me/']analysis[/URL], saying the Ryan plan “ends Medicare” overlooks the fact that its changes would not affect people 55 and older. Politifact also said Medicare would remain in existence, but in a different form — which Ryan’s critics say is the same thing as ending Medicare. Democrats and liberals slammed the decision and stood by the contention that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) proposal would end Medicare. “It seems foolish to have to parse the meaning of the word ‘end,’ but if there’s a program, and it’s replaced with a different program, proponents brought an end to the original program,” liberal [URL='http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/politifact_ought_to_be_ashamed034211.php']blogger[/URL] Steve Benen wrote at the Washington Monthly. “That’s what the verb means.” Under Ryan’s plan, the existing Medicare program would be replaced with a system in which the federal government provides seniors with subsidies to buy private insurance. “The very definition of the Medicare program is a national health insurance program for seniors which House Republicans would abolish under their budget,” the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee said in an earlier rebuttal of Politifact’s analysis of the Ryan plan. [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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