GPS photos

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by DS, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Today,I was given a driver followup for a cell phone that was not received.
    Attatched to it was photo from space of the delivery location,and a discrepancy
    as to the signature accusation point and stop complete point.
    This is my area,and I know pretty much every nook and cranny.
    This cover driver had a helper that day and had 250 stops and may
    have to talk to security about this.I did everything I could to try to find
    who the hell signed for it but to no avail.
    OK now back to the GPS photo.
    Something that happened on Dec 17th was recorded from space.
    The photo showed the pkg car at that precise time.
    Does ups have it's own satellites now?
    Do they pay for this info?
    That kinda freaked me out.
     
  2. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Wonder if it will freak the husband out more to know that Google generally only takes photos once a year.
     
  3. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Are you sure the little package car wasn't photoshopped into the picture? I wonder if UPS realizes GPS isn't fool proof? To this day if you ask for directions to my house Yahoo maps and Mapquest will lead you to a spot that is 6 miles from my house. (by the way- I like it like that and am dissappointed that Google maps finnaly figured out where I live.) We won't even mention Apple maps---they can't figure out where anybody lives.
     
  4. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    If Im remembering correctly didn't they purchase a satellite, along with a company called Tomorrow ?
     
  5. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    What you are seeing in the photo is simply an overhead satellite image of the area with the GPS coordinates of the package scan superimposed on it. Think about it; satellites cant take these kind of pics after dark, or when there is cloud cover over the area. Look at the trees in the photo, they will be in full bloom and there wont be any snow on the ground because they are taken during the summer months when it is clear and sunny outside.
     
  6. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    I don't believe the GPS is perfect,, had a DF this week that had those pics that showed two different spots as a delivery point. Had 2 pkgs for that stop, one showed it was delivered correctly, the other showed it more than a mile away at a commercial stop I deliver at in the morning. Both had a 1751 del time, which is about the time I get in that area to do my extra work resi split. How can I be two places at once?
     
  7. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom


    That last sentence is the number one DIAD message response from drivers.
     
  8. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    Rod,

    You mixed three different things together....

    GPS is the piece of the puzzle that determines your latitude and longitude. That's all it does. There is a GPS chip in the DIAD and also in the Telematics device. There is probably one in your cell phone. GPS is probably accurate to about 30 feet I think.

    Satellite Maps is the piece that shows you the picture. Its a satellite picture taken from space and is updated on some frequency. UPS does NOT have satellites that are taking these pictures.

    Navigation Maps is the final piece. These maps know things like street names, speed limites, addresses, etc. When you see a satellite map with street names on it, the overlayed the satellite photo with this navigation map.

    When you use a "GPS" or "navigation" sytem the three pieces are put together. GPS tell the system where you are. The navigation map says how streets are connected. Sometimes you see that on a satellite picture.
     
  9. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    P-man, maybe you can explain to me why a certain delivery I make multiple times a week never shows in the board as wrong, but is actually about a mile and a half away from the physical address?
     
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Happens to me also sometimes 4-5 miles away or more. It seems to happen for the stops I consistently leave at another address. Does the system learn this some how?
     
  11. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Yep, but it will never relearn it if your people move or otherwise won't take their packages where you leave them.
     
  12. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Hey- all I know is that the Garmin thing I use on trips to lead me to something has sure lead me astray more than once and if you try to find my house with anything other than Google maps you are screwed so why would UPS think that what the see on their spy in the sky means crap to anyone?
     
  13. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    After a certain number of deliveries it automatically learns the address.
     
  14. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    That's not true it learns the new one after a certain number of deliveries.
     
  15. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    I'm disheartened that there are drivers in my company that think this satellite pic given to them was in real-time ! :groooansmileyf:
     
  16. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.


    I've got one that the system hasn't figured out for over three years!
     
  17. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.



    And taken from a UPS satellite!
     
  18. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Lol it doesn't "learn" anything. It's a dumb computer that when you scan a package checks to see if your latitude and longitude matches what it's records show for that address. If yes all is good if not then it throws an exception.
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Actually 407 is right. Say you have a residential delivery that you are indirecting to a commercial stop. Do this enough times and the system will "learn" that packages for the residential address go to the commercial stop.
     
  20. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Again, you are wrong. I write code and understand the workings that go on behind GPS.