Grass is soooo much greener @ article 22.3 job
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fethrs
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The combo jobs are not being filled or put up for bid anymore at my hub. It's my understanding that the company wants to eliminate them and there will not be any more combo jobs created for next contract. I have been laid off for over a year but because there is enough work for me to do I still get my 8 hrs.
Some posters here are under the impression that the jobs are easy to get and the work is easy, not completely true. The work vaires depending on hub/job and they aren't even available to bid on anymore.
Some posters here are under the impression that the jobs are easy to get and the work is easy, not completely true. The work vaires depending on hub/job and they aren't even available to bid on anymore.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Let's assume there is an $8/hr wage difference between the 22.3 job and a FT driver's job. $8/hr for 2,000 hours is $16K. $16K every year for 20-30 years is $320-480K. This does not include any OT that the FT driver would get---22.3 are limited to 8 hours. 5 hours OT per week @ $12/hr is $60--$3,120 per year--$62,400-93,600--for a total difference of $384,400-573,600 over the course of a career.
200+ stops not looking so bad now, is it?
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Anonymous 10
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I have a feeling you will be getting your excitement back real soon.
brown bomber
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welcome back ...Nancy, or whatever your name is........I figured that you would cave...............weak mind, weak individual
article22
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I don't need the extra $$$ to work like a uncle Tom !!! Upstate the chances you make it to retirement as a package car driver are slim!!! You'll be hurt , crippled, or dead before then. I'll coast into retirement feeling good!! ARTICLE 22 isn't looking too bad now. " Go chase that carrot runner"
UnconTROLLed
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You have zero idea what you're talking about.
UnconTROLLed
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My 22.3 job is easier than Brittney Spears drunk at a frat party.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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23 years in, 7 to go. $5K/month pension when I cross the finish line. $250-300K in my 401K by 2019. I have the usual soreness but have no doubt I will make it to 30 years.
We had a driver who had become a liability to the company--rather than terminate her the union and company created a 22.3 job for her. She lost $8/hr but kept her job.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Please point out the error(s) in my calculations.
A typical Article 22.3 worker makes $25.79 per hour. That's what the top Air Driving 22.3 Rate is, and what the top Inside-Inside 22.3 Rate is (assuming the employee is not grandfathered at a higher Inside rate.)
The top Package Car Driver's Rate is $31.31 in New England. (Other areas may be a few cents more or less.)
So . . .
Let's assume there is typically a $5.52/hr wage difference between the 22.3 job and a FT driver's job.
UnconTROLLed
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Pay rate difference, "No OT" which is at best a microscale thing, etc. At least try to use facts and be somewhat precise when you want to make a valid point. You just totally missed with that one.
We have many 22.3s in our building with 2,300 to 2,600 hours in 2011. I think they were near 70k. 1.5-3 hours OT every Thurs. night of the year if you want it @ 38?/hr or so, in our tiny building of 70 or so 22.3 jobs.
UnconTROLLed
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Also, air-driver/ins combos can pay much more than advertised. A 25 year part-timer with a 22.3 FT combo can/will receive a higher rate of pay for the inside hours worked, up to whatever the top 1983? grandfathered highest rate. In fact , as "22.3" it's possible to do fairly well under $5.52/hr.
it's okay I won't beat you up over the awareness of the contract. There is supplemental language, also.
it's okay I won't beat you up over the awareness of the contract.
There is supplemental language, also.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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My experience with 22.3 jobs is limited to the 3 that we have in my center--2 that were in place and 1 that was created for a driver who had a hard time driving without hitting things. The wage difference, at least in the case of the former driver, is $8/hr. All 3 get little to no OT.
Adjusted for the figures you and Jon provided, my point remains the same.
Adjusted for the figures you and Jon provided, my point remains the same.
UnconTROLLed
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That is very telling about you.
UnconTROLLed
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In our hub, no.
article22
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Upstate..... How many times did u roll in at 8pm ....drive hOme and find a man running out your back door??
Its not all about the $ my friend. Package car driving paid my bills for years... Now I choose to relax on my ***** for $26 an hour. How many of your kids sporting events did u miss?? How many times did a "fat ***** sup" harass you about not knowing your DOK? The job is simply not worth the $ anymore!! Ohhhh and make sure you bring back a sales lead!!
Its not all about the $ my friend. Package car driving paid my bills for years... Now I choose to relax on my ***** for $26 an hour. How many of your kids sporting events did u miss?? How many times did a "fat ***** sup" harass you about not knowing your DOK? The job is simply not worth the $ anymore!! Ohhhh and make sure you bring back a sales lead!!
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