Grievance question

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by GetTacosOrDieTrying, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. GetTacosOrDieTrying

    GetTacosOrDieTrying What's in the box!!!!!?

    can you file a grievance on say a Manager or DM if they are doing Union work to push production?
     
  2. Number24

    Number24 #24

    Yes! Hit them with the 1, 2. File a grievance, and then smack them with our contract.
     
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  3. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Probably.

    Certain exceptions exist for, say, an Act of God or if they've tried to call in doubles and have exhausted every means of trying to get bargaining unit members in to get the work done. But this probably wasn't the case.
     
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  4. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    A DM doing union member work? You'll never win, nobody would believe you.
     
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  5. Number24

    Number24 #24

    He can simply record the DM working with his cellphone for proof.
     
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  6. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Not a good idea to record UPS property on UPS property while on the clock.
     
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  7. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    A DM doing something other than sitting in their office screamin at folks?
    THAT would be a first!
     
  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We had a girl record the sort manager working on her phone. Walked her out just a month short of 25 years. Never saw her again.
     
  9. GetTacosOrDieTrying

    GetTacosOrDieTrying What's in the box!!!!!?

    I can see recording something on a phone while on th clock as "stealing time". The DM part was more of the extreme case. More so the manager doing Union work. By the sound of things one would need to rally by the squad and have multiple people back the grievance to make anything stick.
     
  10. Cowboy Mac

    Cowboy Mac Active Member

    No, it has more to do with Information Security than anything else. UPS doesn't want it's information out there on the web for competitors to see. Also a manager doing hourly work doesn't always use hand to surface, walks on moving belts, slides, etc. It just makes us look bad.

    I have heard of Full Time Sups being grieved successfully in my local for blatant violations of the contract, but never a DM. When he is here, our DM just walks around all the time with a worried look on his face and questions the ft and pt sups about the operation. Hourly work would be way beneath him, and rightly so. But get witnesses, it might work.
     
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  11. Number24

    Number24 #24

    I've seen co-workers do it.
     
  12. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Don't do it.
     
  13. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    You don't want to be the first they enforce the policy with.
     
  14. Dweezel

    Dweezel New Member

    You can videotape anything it can't be on UPS property though it's in the employee manual. And not knowing it's in it won't save you.
     
  15. GetTacosOrDieTrying

    GetTacosOrDieTrying What's in the box!!!!!?

    i was just curious to as is it possible and would the union back it. Since management and up is a bit different the p/t,f/t sups
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Is it possible? Anything is possible.

    Would the Union back it? Not a chance.
     
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  17. GetTacosOrDieTrying

    GetTacosOrDieTrying What's in the box!!!!!?

    Which is pretty lame being we pay dues to them.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Your BA must have a working relationship with both the center manager and DM. Signing off on frivolous grievances would seriously erode that relationship.
     
  19. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    There's nothing frivolous about upper management stealing union money. However, I seriously doubt anyone at that level would ever touch cardboard.
     
  20. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Consider the media is always across the street when they film a story about an event at a UPS location.