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<blockquote data-quote="dilligaf" data-source="post: 647102" data-attributes="member: 11476"><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: purple">Most everyone knows that I am pro guns. Az is an open carry state and a CCW state. I carry both ways.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Dave, you have the right to your beliefs. I would never try to dissuade you from those beliefs. I whole heartedly agree that you have the right to not have guns and respect your right to not be around them or have them around you.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">bbsam and grgr - I agree with grgr, teach your kids about guns and they will be more likely to respect them. My kids grew up around them. Never had any issues. They were taught at an early age. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">av8t - you are right. My personal opinion is that gun legislation is getting way out of control. Now, before anyone starts to jump on me, I am not saying that I don't think we should have any legislation. Far from the truth. I agree that convicted criminals should not have guns. I agree that the mentally unstable should not have guns. One law in AZ is that if you have been convicted of DV you cannot own a gun. I absolutely agree. What I do not agree with is the government legislating mandatory gun registrations. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Island - I think you bring up a good point in that many of us feel that we are safe in our environments. I feel I am safe in mine as well. Dave I hope yours will always be safe. But the truth of the matter is that we are not safe anymore. The truth is that at any given time anything can and does happen. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">We had a road rage incident here less than a year ago. Mind you, I live in a relatively small community, so these types of things rarely happen here. Anyway this road rage thing started out on the highway and ended in the local grocery store parking lot. It ended with one man dead (the attacker). The attacker came after the other person with an axe and was shot and killed for his efforts. It was a shock in our town. Things like this never happen.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">mac - I couldn't agree with you more. We, as gun owners need to respect the rights of Dave and others. Just as we should have the right to carry, Dave should have the right to not carry and not be around guns. Az is one of those states that allow open carry and just as you have said the right to open carry ends at someone elses property line. Caveat: It is assumed (here) that open carry is permissible unless otherwise posted. There are a few variances in the laws here when it comes to public buildings. Such as, I can open carry into any bank, unless they have posted no guns allowed. I can carry concealed into a bar as long as I am not drinking (this just went into effect). There are nuances in regards to government buildings/property as well.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">DOL - WOW! That was a big 'happy to see you'.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/surprised.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /> </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Sober - We have a gun safe and it is used but I do not keep every gun in it. There is no point in having a gun if I have to say wait a minute I need to go get my gun to a criminal. Right at this minute my 9mm is on my computer desk. I do not agree with you on the open carry freaking people out. One gets used to what one lives around. Mac said that criminals would be less likely to commit a crime if everyone open carried. I agree. But I also believe that applies to concealed carry.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Dave, I am sorry for your tragedy. I wish I could say it so you could hear it. So you would know that I truly mean it. What happened has influenced you in who you are and where you are now. That is not a bad thing. You are neither naive or foolish nor are you less of a man because you choose to not have guns. Guns do not make the man. You are who you are and I personally would not ask for anyone different.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /> </span></span></span> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080"> </span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dilligaf, post: 647102, member: 11476"] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=purple]Most everyone knows that I am pro guns. Az is an open carry state and a CCW state. I carry both ways.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Dave, you have the right to your beliefs. I would never try to dissuade you from those beliefs. I whole heartedly agree that you have the right to not have guns and respect your right to not be around them or have them around you.:happy2:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]bbsam and grgr - I agree with grgr, teach your kids about guns and they will be more likely to respect them. My kids grew up around them. Never had any issues. They were taught at an early age. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]av8t - you are right. My personal opinion is that gun legislation is getting way out of control. Now, before anyone starts to jump on me, I am not saying that I don't think we should have any legislation. Far from the truth. I agree that convicted criminals should not have guns. I agree that the mentally unstable should not have guns. One law in AZ is that if you have been convicted of DV you cannot own a gun. I absolutely agree. What I do not agree with is the government legislating mandatory gun registrations. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Island - I think you bring up a good point in that many of us feel that we are safe in our environments. I feel I am safe in mine as well. Dave I hope yours will always be safe. But the truth of the matter is that we are not safe anymore. The truth is that at any given time anything can and does happen. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]We had a road rage incident here less than a year ago. Mind you, I live in a relatively small community, so these types of things rarely happen here. Anyway this road rage thing started out on the highway and ended in the local grocery store parking lot. It ended with one man dead (the attacker). The attacker came after the other person with an axe and was shot and killed for his efforts. It was a shock in our town. Things like this never happen.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]mac - I couldn't agree with you more. We, as gun owners need to respect the rights of Dave and others. Just as we should have the right to carry, Dave should have the right to not carry and not be around guns. Az is one of those states that allow open carry and just as you have said the right to open carry ends at someone elses property line. Caveat: It is assumed (here) that open carry is permissible unless otherwise posted. There are a few variances in the laws here when it comes to public buildings. Such as, I can open carry into any bank, unless they have posted no guns allowed. I can carry concealed into a bar as long as I am not drinking (this just went into effect). There are nuances in regards to government buildings/property as well.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]DOL - WOW! That was a big 'happy to see you'.:surprised: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Sober - We have a gun safe and it is used but I do not keep every gun in it. There is no point in having a gun if I have to say wait a minute I need to go get my gun to a criminal. Right at this minute my 9mm is on my computer desk. I do not agree with you on the open carry freaking people out. One gets used to what one lives around. Mac said that criminals would be less likely to commit a crime if everyone open carried. I agree. But I also believe that applies to concealed carry.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Dave, I am sorry for your tragedy. I wish I could say it so you could hear it. So you would know that I truly mean it. What happened has influenced you in who you are and where you are now. That is not a bad thing. You are neither naive or foolish nor are you less of a man because you choose to not have guns. Guns do not make the man. You are who you are and I personally would not ask for anyone different.:peaceful: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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