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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 297777" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>The bomb throwing kind of course! Can't you tell?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></p><p> </p><p>What has sparked interest in American political underground movements is the Ron Paul manifestation but it really started with Buchanan and Nader. Paleo-conservatives and Paleo-liberals found that in many areas (global economic hegemony ie empire) they were in very much agreement. When they discussed such things as taking care of the poor and disadvantaged, they both wanted the same ultimate goal (end of suffering) but one saw gov't as a solution for good through civic compulsion and the other saw the gov't as the power through compulsion (regulation)behind the very market manipulations that killed their free market ideals while magnifying the problem of the human condition making it worse. </p><p> </p><p>In other words the liberal (if you will)saw things like social security for the good it does and when things go wrong the problem is someone took away and thus we just need more of it. The glass half full approach (making the conservative the opposite with the glass half empty <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" />)</p><p> </p><p>The myth about democrats and guns are true but at the same time there is a myth that things have gotten worse because Reagan cut gov't. Truth is gov't has grown to a vast size of what it was or even should be during this entire period and that gov't reduction is in fact a myth. </p><p> </p><p>Paleo-liberals and Paleo-Conservatives (I want to call us if you will, the De-Cons, I love it) are now realizing that in fact gov't is way to large and vastly to broad and at the moment a growning undercurrent among the ranks has them more and more united and talking and in many respects that is what the idea of the Ron Paul campaign was and is about. Unlike the cult of personalities among the rest, outside of Kucinich and Gravel and like Ron in their own way, Paul's campaign is specifically about the message. It's no secret across the broader electorate, the Paul message doesn't work and if he were the typical candidate, what would he do? Yep, change the message. Has he? Did Dennis or Gravel when their numbers were in the tank? No, they stayed true to what they said at the beginning, the middle and to the end. May not agree with them but admire the honesty and at least this instill a measure of trust on my part.</p><p> </p><p>Even Boortz and Limbaugh are twisted on what to do now come November. Even Limbaugh was in a twist when Gingrich stated on one of the Sunday talk shows that the Conservative movement of Reagan was over and that the movement going forward must change as a result. Rush had Newt on his show after that and was just taken back by what Newt said. Having been a close observer of Newt since he first entered Congress back in the 70's, I knew he was no conservative and even when he was my Congressman I didn't vote for him. Wrote in myself one time and Donald Duck another in protest.</p><p> </p><p>Speaking of Reagan and conservative values, I'm going to post a You tube thing in the next post so check it out. It's not really for your benefit but moreso for others. I'm just using you as a diving board.</p><p> </p><p>Again, I like the anti-state views of the anarchist movement with folks like 19th century Lysander Spooner and Randolph Borne and his 20th century thesis, "War is the Health of the State!" <a href="http://antiwar.com/bourne.php" target="_blank">http://antiwar.com/bourne.php</a> but I know that a true anarchist (no State) society in not possible. I also like throwing the anarchy bomb because most people fashion libertarians as either anarchist or humanist in the libertine perspective and in most cases, both scenarios are completely wrong. But it doesn't stop me from having my fun from time to time. Besides, accuse me of being gay and I'll grab you on the arse just to cement you in your illusion!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></p><p> </p><p>As for bombs, check out my signature link as it speaks volumes and very loudly I might add.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 297777, member: 2189"] The bomb throwing kind of course! Can't you tell? :rofl: What has sparked interest in American political underground movements is the Ron Paul manifestation but it really started with Buchanan and Nader. Paleo-conservatives and Paleo-liberals found that in many areas (global economic hegemony ie empire) they were in very much agreement. When they discussed such things as taking care of the poor and disadvantaged, they both wanted the same ultimate goal (end of suffering) but one saw gov't as a solution for good through civic compulsion and the other saw the gov't as the power through compulsion (regulation)behind the very market manipulations that killed their free market ideals while magnifying the problem of the human condition making it worse. In other words the liberal (if you will)saw things like social security for the good it does and when things go wrong the problem is someone took away and thus we just need more of it. The glass half full approach (making the conservative the opposite with the glass half empty :happy-very:) The myth about democrats and guns are true but at the same time there is a myth that things have gotten worse because Reagan cut gov't. Truth is gov't has grown to a vast size of what it was or even should be during this entire period and that gov't reduction is in fact a myth. Paleo-liberals and Paleo-Conservatives (I want to call us if you will, the De-Cons, I love it) are now realizing that in fact gov't is way to large and vastly to broad and at the moment a growning undercurrent among the ranks has them more and more united and talking and in many respects that is what the idea of the Ron Paul campaign was and is about. Unlike the cult of personalities among the rest, outside of Kucinich and Gravel and like Ron in their own way, Paul's campaign is specifically about the message. It's no secret across the broader electorate, the Paul message doesn't work and if he were the typical candidate, what would he do? Yep, change the message. Has he? Did Dennis or Gravel when their numbers were in the tank? No, they stayed true to what they said at the beginning, the middle and to the end. May not agree with them but admire the honesty and at least this instill a measure of trust on my part. Even Boortz and Limbaugh are twisted on what to do now come November. Even Limbaugh was in a twist when Gingrich stated on one of the Sunday talk shows that the Conservative movement of Reagan was over and that the movement going forward must change as a result. Rush had Newt on his show after that and was just taken back by what Newt said. Having been a close observer of Newt since he first entered Congress back in the 70's, I knew he was no conservative and even when he was my Congressman I didn't vote for him. Wrote in myself one time and Donald Duck another in protest. Speaking of Reagan and conservative values, I'm going to post a You tube thing in the next post so check it out. It's not really for your benefit but moreso for others. I'm just using you as a diving board. Again, I like the anti-state views of the anarchist movement with folks like 19th century Lysander Spooner and Randolph Borne and his 20th century thesis, "War is the Health of the State!" [URL]http://antiwar.com/bourne.php[/URL] but I know that a true anarchist (no State) society in not possible. I also like throwing the anarchy bomb because most people fashion libertarians as either anarchist or humanist in the libertine perspective and in most cases, both scenarios are completely wrong. But it doesn't stop me from having my fun from time to time. Besides, accuse me of being gay and I'll grab you on the arse just to cement you in your illusion! :rofl: As for bombs, check out my signature link as it speaks volumes and very loudly I might add. :happy2: [/QUOTE]
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