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<blockquote data-quote="steeltoe" data-source="post: 376403" data-attributes="member: 9491"><p>The same media that did it in 97. All we hear about is $32.00 per hour and how we are overpaid. Yes, our full-time drivers make a great hourly wage. No, they probably could not make that much at 99% of the other blue collar jobs out there. Tieguy, you are correct about the payscale issue. I admited you are right on the pay issue. Can you be honest and answer my questions below?</p><p> </p><p>Why would any employee expect a contract offer on the table that offers a less lucrative package than they already have in place, when the company they work for is very, very, profitable?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I challenge you to show me multiple people on this board who have complained about the pay scale. Pay has never been the issue for full-timers and for you to throw out the $32.00 an hour issue is not being truthful to yourself or the people on this board. </p><p> </p><p>On the other hand, pay is an issue for starting part-timers. It is a joke compared to our company 20 years ago. In my state, if you started at UPS as a part-timer 25 years ago, you made $8.00 per hour with benefits after 30 days. A part-timer who starts today in my state makes $8.50 per hour and does not receive benefits until 1 year. So I guess your answer would be that the media would not badmouth a contract that offers "any insurance" to a prat-timer. Not until they heard about the previous contracts language.</p><p> </p><p>Bottom line is the fact that we should have given up nothing and asked for more of everything. Our company is one of the most profitable company's in the world, yet we went backwards as a whole with the National Master Contract.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeltoe, post: 376403, member: 9491"] The same media that did it in 97. All we hear about is $32.00 per hour and how we are overpaid. Yes, our full-time drivers make a great hourly wage. No, they probably could not make that much at 99% of the other blue collar jobs out there. Tieguy, you are correct about the payscale issue. I admited you are right on the pay issue. Can you be honest and answer my questions below? Why would any employee expect a contract offer on the table that offers a less lucrative package than they already have in place, when the company they work for is very, very, profitable? I challenge you to show me multiple people on this board who have complained about the pay scale. Pay has never been the issue for full-timers and for you to throw out the $32.00 an hour issue is not being truthful to yourself or the people on this board. On the other hand, pay is an issue for starting part-timers. It is a joke compared to our company 20 years ago. In my state, if you started at UPS as a part-timer 25 years ago, you made $8.00 per hour with benefits after 30 days. A part-timer who starts today in my state makes $8.50 per hour and does not receive benefits until 1 year. So I guess your answer would be that the media would not badmouth a contract that offers "any insurance" to a prat-timer. Not until they heard about the previous contracts language. Bottom line is the fact that we should have given up nothing and asked for more of everything. Our company is one of the most profitable company's in the world, yet we went backwards as a whole with the National Master Contract. [/QUOTE]
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