I struck gold at the Danner factory outlet store up in Portland today. I wear size 12EE's which are normally harder than hell to find, but today I found TWO pair of Danner "Explorer" factory seconds in my size. "Factory seconds" means that the boots have some extremely minor scuff or cosmetic blemish on them (I will scuff the hell out of them anyway after an hour of work), but are otherwise perfectly good. These are Made in USA boots with GoreTex liners in them, waterproof and resoleable. First quality versions of this boot normally retail for well over $300 a pair; the factory seconds run for $175; but the Danner outlet store gives UPS employees a 20% discount so I was able to pick them up for $140 a pair. You cant beat the price, and in my opinion Danners are the best boots money can buy. I just paid out $300 to have a couple of my older pairs resoled and reconditioned, but since I didnt want to spend extra to replace the Gore Tex in them they wont be 100% waterproof. Not a problem now, I can wear those boots in the summer and save these new ones for the rainy/snowy season. I have learned over the years that my feet, knees and back will all pay the price if I try to "go cheap" on boots, so for me Danners are the only way to go!