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<blockquote data-quote="BMWMC" data-source="post: 1177130" data-attributes="member: 37461"><p>Try and learn to read. I said sit down with the center manager and try and resolve the issue first. Grievance are exactly what the company wants because they can play politics with the union and spin there wheels as long as they want. I mean whats the biggest compliant you hear from members that file grievances? My experience and guess is non-action. Not saying of course all grievances are created equal. I've seen some petty stuff in my day but for wages not paid, the state department of employment security is your best motivators. The last thing UPS wants is a state agency with the legal authority to audit time records milling through there files. </p><p></p><p>BTW this "follow the methods" meme is just a crock of horse sheet. They don't care 1 iota about your methods. The only time the scream methods is when something goes wrong. They want number...money..more and more faster and faster. I probably scratch my route 3 or 4 times a month but for the most part its 10-30 minutes paid over and they don't say boo. Why because that about right given the variables in the time study. The time studies are not perfect but there pretty darn close if your not BS'in around. </p><p></p><p> I take my full hour and stop when I have to use the restroom. The only thing I'll admit too is giving up 1 or 2 ten minute breaks now and again. Mostly because I find myself BS'in around and offset it with not taking a break or 2. You know what for a little concession you get a lot. They don't hassle me, ride me, and I can get all the OT I want. 1 or 2 ten minute breaks at straight time is a pittance to loggerheads and grievance filing. Heck while I'm at the confessional I even chit chat with my preloader in the morning before my start time and move a few packages where I want them. Not more than 5-10 minutes. </p><p></p><p>Practicing work rule religion usually hurts both parties in the end and where supposed to be working together. UPS is my employer and as much as I appreciate all the articles in the contract I don't lean on them for my relationship with management. We have a company full of sheet-house lawyers nick picking the tiniest bullsheet they can find.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BMWMC, post: 1177130, member: 37461"] Try and learn to read. I said sit down with the center manager and try and resolve the issue first. Grievance are exactly what the company wants because they can play politics with the union and spin there wheels as long as they want. I mean whats the biggest compliant you hear from members that file grievances? My experience and guess is non-action. Not saying of course all grievances are created equal. I've seen some petty stuff in my day but for wages not paid, the state department of employment security is your best motivators. The last thing UPS wants is a state agency with the legal authority to audit time records milling through there files. BTW this "follow the methods" meme is just a crock of horse sheet. They don't care 1 iota about your methods. The only time the scream methods is when something goes wrong. They want number...money..more and more faster and faster. I probably scratch my route 3 or 4 times a month but for the most part its 10-30 minutes paid over and they don't say boo. Why because that about right given the variables in the time study. The time studies are not perfect but there pretty darn close if your not BS'in around. I take my full hour and stop when I have to use the restroom. The only thing I'll admit too is giving up 1 or 2 ten minute breaks now and again. Mostly because I find myself BS'in around and offset it with not taking a break or 2. You know what for a little concession you get a lot. They don't hassle me, ride me, and I can get all the OT I want. 1 or 2 ten minute breaks at straight time is a pittance to loggerheads and grievance filing. Heck while I'm at the confessional I even chit chat with my preloader in the morning before my start time and move a few packages where I want them. Not more than 5-10 minutes. Practicing work rule religion usually hurts both parties in the end and where supposed to be working together. UPS is my employer and as much as I appreciate all the articles in the contract I don't lean on them for my relationship with management. We have a company full of sheet-house lawyers nick picking the tiniest bullsheet they can find. [/QUOTE]
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