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<blockquote data-quote="Orion inc." data-source="post: 2204740" data-attributes="member: 58808"><p>First off, you won't be FT before 40 or even full rate. Which puts a 35 year pension at 75 years of age. You really think you're going to do 35 years of this job until your 70s? You're out of your mind. It'll physically break you before that and then you'll be too broken to even enjoy your retirement or pension. </p><p></p><p>I didn't just mean college is the best way to go but more education is the best way to go. The more you know, learn and acquire through knowledge , the more opportunities you can have. It also creates a better quality of life as you're not just some stupid idiot. With education , skills and knowledge , you can learn to asses and use critical thinking in many situations. Take yours for example. You think you'll be FT and making 100k by 40 and then will put in 35 years for a pension at at mid to late seventies. Anyone with knowledge or experience of this job knows your dreaming. Can it be done? Sure. Anything can be done. But it'll take amazing circumstances and an amazing individual. I can tell by your posts that you are not that guy. Your approach is one that you know it all and are always right. </p><p></p><p>College gives someone the opportunity to explore many ideas and shape themselves. Did you attend college? Did you graduate? I did both and while I made a career at ups , college has served a great deal in my life to make it better. </p><p></p><p>Your issue Jakey is that you think ups is the only thing that pays what it does etc. I can understand why you see that as you've probably been stuck in dead end, low paying jobs your whole life. It's a great paying job if you're lucky to start in your twenties. Almost 40? Well you better be in amazing physical shape and stay that way. Otherwise your knees, back, shoulders, joints and more will suffer more than usual. </p><p></p><p>If ups is the "best" you want for your kid then you really don't know ups at all. It has it's good points but no way would I want my kids to go through the abuse or environment ups uses. I want better for my kids. I don't want them to settle. I want them to succeed and have freedom in that success. That's the difference between you and me. </p><p></p><p>Like I said before Jake, you really need to change your mindset about ups and the job you want. You want to do 35 years ? Then listen to the guys who have or are closer to it like me. Get rid of this approach that you know everything because that's when you won't learn anything. Get through school first and then qualify. After that, get through being a TCD and learning every route because you're the lowest guy. Get through not working everyday either or expecting you will. Get through going FT and working 4 years until progression. Get through lay offs or swinging different routes blind until you have enough to bid. Then get through having a bid and setting it up the right way. </p><p></p><p>Do all that without an accident or injury.</p><p></p><p>Then you'll have the experience and knowledge to help the younger or older guys coming up.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Until then, learn to shut up more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orion inc., post: 2204740, member: 58808"] First off, you won't be FT before 40 or even full rate. Which puts a 35 year pension at 75 years of age. You really think you're going to do 35 years of this job until your 70s? You're out of your mind. It'll physically break you before that and then you'll be too broken to even enjoy your retirement or pension. I didn't just mean college is the best way to go but more education is the best way to go. The more you know, learn and acquire through knowledge , the more opportunities you can have. It also creates a better quality of life as you're not just some stupid idiot. With education , skills and knowledge , you can learn to asses and use critical thinking in many situations. Take yours for example. You think you'll be FT and making 100k by 40 and then will put in 35 years for a pension at at mid to late seventies. Anyone with knowledge or experience of this job knows your dreaming. Can it be done? Sure. Anything can be done. But it'll take amazing circumstances and an amazing individual. I can tell by your posts that you are not that guy. Your approach is one that you know it all and are always right. College gives someone the opportunity to explore many ideas and shape themselves. Did you attend college? Did you graduate? I did both and while I made a career at ups , college has served a great deal in my life to make it better. Your issue Jakey is that you think ups is the only thing that pays what it does etc. I can understand why you see that as you've probably been stuck in dead end, low paying jobs your whole life. It's a great paying job if you're lucky to start in your twenties. Almost 40? Well you better be in amazing physical shape and stay that way. Otherwise your knees, back, shoulders, joints and more will suffer more than usual. If ups is the "best" you want for your kid then you really don't know ups at all. It has it's good points but no way would I want my kids to go through the abuse or environment ups uses. I want better for my kids. I don't want them to settle. I want them to succeed and have freedom in that success. That's the difference between you and me. Like I said before Jake, you really need to change your mindset about ups and the job you want. You want to do 35 years ? Then listen to the guys who have or are closer to it like me. Get rid of this approach that you know everything because that's when you won't learn anything. Get through school first and then qualify. After that, get through being a TCD and learning every route because you're the lowest guy. Get through not working everyday either or expecting you will. Get through going FT and working 4 years until progression. Get through lay offs or swinging different routes blind until you have enough to bid. Then get through having a bid and setting it up the right way. Do all that without an accident or injury. Then you'll have the experience and knowledge to help the younger or older guys coming up. Until then, learn to shut up more. [/QUOTE]
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