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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 353472" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Ok Tie, </p><p> </p><p>As usual, your way off base and im about to score. While your thoughts were echoed by sx2700, its no surprise, water seeks its own levels.</p><p> </p><p>But let me take issue with your points.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: black">Lets make it absolutely clear, THERE ARE NO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS that UPS employees have to meet in our contract. We get an assignment, we "each" do the assignment to the best of our abilities and the assessment of a fair days work is calculated individually. There is NO AGREEMENT between the Union and the Company for employees to reach any kind of benchmarks or standards in the daily performance of their duties. Therefore, your point of avoiding being held to standards is refuted.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: black">Our union provides no such thing. The Teamsters dont bring people into the HR office to apply for jobs. This is the companies undoing.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">The new version of hiring at UPS has been reduced to "cattle calls" and many people show up for walk thru's. No longer are the college kids coming, just the local "riff raft" that the company employs cause' they can get away with paying $8.50 and hour for 5 more years.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">They become a part of the labor force "after" UPS hires them and introduces them to the Teamsters, not the other way around. Once a Union member, they are afforded protections from a National Contract.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">They may not be good workers and in fact, many of them are lazy, late or thieves, but the COMPANY chose to hire them and they have rights under a contract.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">So, if you dont like a certain employee cause' he's lazy or whatever, you should walk into your HR office and scold your HR manager. They are responsible for bringing him on property.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #000000">We only market what you sell us TIE. If we had a say in hiring, the standards would be way higher.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">This is where your wrong, if the Teamster UPS'ers had no pride in work, there would be <span style="color: red">NO</span> CIRCLE OF HONOR, <span style="color: red">NO</span> 35 year employees, <span style="color: red">NO</span> </span><span style="color: black">safe work days, </span><span style="color: red">NO</span><span style="color: black"> PRODUCTIVITY.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">The UPS Teamsters have made this company what it is, not donut dunkers like yourself. The UPS reputation has been formed on the backs of the Teamster members.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">While you are busy typing posts and dunking your latest crumb donut during business hours on a company computer, a TEAMSTER UPS'er is out shaking hands and solving customer concerns.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Your management has provided nothing to UPS's reputation.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #000000">This isnt the role of the Steward. The steward is a witness, an intermediary between the company and the employee, not a supervisor.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">The company has a responsibility to manage the company, not the employees, not the stewards and not the UNION.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">If poor performance of employees is the trending factor in our hubs, then a closer look at the hiring process is in order. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">If you try and treat the symptom instead of the problem, then the issue will never be resolved.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">If anyone is making the Teamsters look bad, its the ineffectual management of the company. In this case, based "only" on the information provided, a weak management person has failed in his/her duties. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Place blame where it belongs TIE, if the company understood that any management person was afraid to do his/her job because of the race of any employee, then that management person should be removed.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">This isnt a job of "feelings", its a job of effort and energy.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">No one's feelings are a protected entity. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">OWNED.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 353472, member: 12148"] Ok Tie, As usual, your way off base and im about to score. While your thoughts were echoed by sx2700, its no surprise, water seeks its own levels. But let me take issue with your points. [COLOR=#0000ff] [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Lets make it absolutely clear, THERE ARE NO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS that UPS employees have to meet in our contract. We get an assignment, we "each" do the assignment to the best of our abilities and the assessment of a fair days work is calculated individually. There is NO AGREEMENT between the Union and the Company for employees to reach any kind of benchmarks or standards in the daily performance of their duties. Therefore, your point of avoiding being held to standards is refuted.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff] [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Our union provides no such thing. The Teamsters dont bring people into the HR office to apply for jobs. This is the companies undoing.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]The new version of hiring at UPS has been reduced to "cattle calls" and many people show up for walk thru's. No longer are the college kids coming, just the local "riff raft" that the company employs cause' they can get away with paying $8.50 and hour for 5 more years.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]They become a part of the labor force "after" UPS hires them and introduces them to the Teamsters, not the other way around. Once a Union member, they are afforded protections from a National Contract.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]They may not be good workers and in fact, many of them are lazy, late or thieves, but the COMPANY chose to hire them and they have rights under a contract.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]So, if you dont like a certain employee cause' he's lazy or whatever, you should walk into your HR office and scold your HR manager. They are responsible for bringing him on property.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]We only market what you sell us TIE. If we had a say in hiring, the standards would be way higher.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] This is where your wrong, if the Teamster UPS'ers had no pride in work, there would be [COLOR=red]NO[/COLOR] CIRCLE OF HONOR, [COLOR=red]NO[/COLOR] 35 year employees, [COLOR=red]NO[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=black]safe work days, [/COLOR][COLOR=red]NO[/COLOR][COLOR=black] PRODUCTIVITY.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]The UPS Teamsters have made this company what it is, not donut dunkers like yourself. The UPS reputation has been formed on the backs of the Teamster members.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]While you are busy typing posts and dunking your latest crumb donut during business hours on a company computer, a TEAMSTER UPS'er is out shaking hands and solving customer concerns.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Your management has provided nothing to UPS's reputation.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]This isnt the role of the Steward. The steward is a witness, an intermediary between the company and the employee, not a supervisor.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]The company has a responsibility to manage the company, not the employees, not the stewards and not the UNION.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]If poor performance of employees is the trending factor in our hubs, then a closer look at the hiring process is in order. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]If you try and treat the symptom instead of the problem, then the issue will never be resolved.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]If anyone is making the Teamsters look bad, its the ineffectual management of the company. In this case, based "only" on the information provided, a weak management person has failed in his/her duties. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Place blame where it belongs TIE, if the company understood that any management person was afraid to do his/her job because of the race of any employee, then that management person should be removed.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]This isnt a job of "feelings", its a job of effort and energy.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]No one's feelings are a protected entity. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]OWNED.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Peace:peaceful:[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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