Help Request - Claim Misinformation Causing Denial

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Bill Gilbert, Jan 14, 2015.

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  1. Bill Gilbert

    Bill Gilbert New Member

    Hi, hope I'm posting this in the correct spot, and I'm new here so I apologize for any redundancy. I've also researched the boards for a solution and came up with nothing.

    I'll dive right into it but the short version is that I have a claim being denied on $5k worth of lab equipment because the store owner at the local UPS store (#100) in Canada filled out the paperwork incorrectly. I understand they aren't directly affiliated with UPS, but UPS is basing their info on his paperwork, so in this instance it's related.

    So I bought lab equipment for a friend in October at an auction. That auction company dropped off the equipment at the local UPS Store in Canada, everything in tact. It was not packaged at all, just bare equipment. The UPS Store owner wrapped, boxed, and padded all of the equipment to be shipped. Then he filled out the paperwork, incorrectly:

    - He wrote that the auction company was the shipper.
    - He then put the incorrect shipper number on the form
    - He listed the correct payment account (mine), but for some reason UPS only acknowledges the shipper account when it comes to claims.
    - He put a bulk weight of 105lbs instead of individual weights (so UPS is assuming the box rated for 32lbs had 35lbs of goods in it, which was also incorrect).

    The items arrived damaged and opened when they got to Denver (shipping destination where friend is). I made a claim with UPS, they had an insurance agent call the recipient to get info and denied the claim because of the weight stipulation for the boxes (which they had no way of knowing the exact weight and simply guessed that the damaged boxes were a certain weight, despite the equipment inside weighing much less).

    So based on false info I get my first denied claim on this. It was also denied when appealed based on the same wrong info. A couple weeks later I finally get ahold of someone in customer service telling me to file a new report and fill out some paperwork to be faxed to Canada, because the UPS in Canada is supposed to ultimately decide. So I take the current paperwork, strike through all the incorrect data and fill it out correctly. Then, I fax it to UPS Canada. A month later no one has still contacted me so I have the info re-sent from a US UPS Customer Service rep to the people in UPS Canada. They again deny the claim, with no reason or explanation, and are telling me that in order to appeal, the shipper (wrong info still) must appeal. This tells me they are still looking at the wrong paperwork.

    It's been four months of calling and talking to these people, each time someone looks at the wrong info and I have to explain the situation before they realize the mistake and check some other system to get it "fixed".

    I need to escalate this further and I'm desperate. This equipment originally cost $50k so it's not like the guy can just go out and get more or even repair it. The local UPS store owner has been complacent in this matter and frankly I think he realizes it was his mistake initially which is causing the hang up and paperwork drama, but refuses to acknowledge it because the claim is so high ($4,500).

    It should be noted I've talked to UPS Customer Support, Claim Resolution, Customer Relations and Canadian Customer Claims/Support. I'm told nothing further can be done, but don't see how I/my friend should be held responsible for this when we neither packed nor shipped these items.

    I need help. I can't go further and my next step is to start emailing and calling executives to make something happen. I don't doubt my ability to find their contact info, but I prefer not to hassle and bother someone that probably has other things to deal with like running the business. This is a broken system and at best being handled very poorly. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thank you, Bill
     
  2. Shifting Contents

    Shifting Contents Most Help Needed

    There has to be some version of small claims court in Canada via which you should go after the ups store. Ups has nothing to do with it now IMHO.

    They have the paper work to deny your claim.

    The ups store messed it all up.

    JMHO but we are all just drivers here.
     
  3. Bill Gilbert

    Bill Gilbert New Member

    I'm in South Carolina. For me to fly to Canada and deal with small claims court is cost prohibitive. I'm getting fairly screwed here I think.
     
  4. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    UPS Stores in US don't take anything over $1000. Claim needs to go through the store for their pack n ship promise.

    Nobody here can help beside rickyb.
     
  5. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    Dude Yer Screwed!!!!
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    UPS Stores do not limit their shipments to those worth less than $1K.

    To the OP: your issue is with the UPS Store, not UPS.
     
  7. Bill Gilbert

    Bill Gilbert New Member

    Yeah but UPS destroyed the contents, not the store. The store filed the paperwork wrong but UPS delivered the goods. Both are at fault.
     
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    UPS Stores have a pack and ship guarantee.
     
  9. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    We can't help you....we just work here...we get screwed over daily.
     
  10. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Hey, barnyard. Time for a lock!
     
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  11. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

    Is your stuff worth 50k or $4500? UPS deals with the shipper not the recipient because the shipper is the one who pays UPS. Also you don't want to bother those hard working corporate people because they have a lot to do? Who do you think made the policy that deny your claim. Contact rickyb for the board of directors number
     
  12. Bill Gilbert

    Bill Gilbert New Member

    The stuff is technically worth $50k, but the guy only wants to get his money back that he paid into it. At this point he has no working equipment and is out $4500, plus three obscenely-sized paperweights.
     
  13. Bill Gilbert

    Bill Gilbert New Member

    And I paid UPS on my account, so I'm the shipper, but the dude who filled out the paperwork (UPS Store Owner) filled it out incorrectly so thats why I'm getting blocked and having issues.
     
  14. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    You are going to have to take this up with UPS either through their website or their FB page, this is not it.
     
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