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<blockquote data-quote="Magnus" data-source="post: 790851" data-attributes="member: 22193"><p><strong>dorhugs</strong>, your friend needs to stay OFF of the Package Car when he/she is NOT on-the-clock. Suffice it to say in the short-hand that nothing good would happen for either him/her or his/her Driver if they somehow managed to get into an accident or else he/she ended up injured some other way doing their job, but not actually doing their job because technically, they ARE NOT supposed to be there - PERIOD. Your friend AND his/her Driver would get into a hell of a lot of trouble if ANYONE found out what was going on - your friend would be terminated on the spot, but the Driver will merely get a slap on the wrist (warning) in comparison to the HELPER'S punishment for this infraction of corporate policy. Another $8.50 is NOT worth those risks!</p><p></p><p>On that note, I make Pickups EVERYDAY on the route I am on and handle more than 80% of those services by myself while the Driver does his own thing (lines up the next stops, or else dumps some off himself). I am on the clock and am being paid for services rendered. Whoever is saying we're not allowed to be used for Pickups IS full of BS. There is no rule on the books saying we can't fulfill that duty as part of our "help". The Driver probably makes that call him/herself so that SPORH doesn't take a dump or so that he/she won't get any "clicks" against them by keeping the Helper on the clock during the largely more time-consuming Pickup services. In that event, your friend needs to tell someone what is going on and preferably BEFORE they get caught!</p><p></p><p>The Driver may be a "cool guy", but that doesn't justify the potentially harmful situation he is putting your friend into by allowing him to sit there during Pickups while not on the clock! Liability is taken seriously at UPS... if you're a Helper off-the-clock, they don't even like you to go into the "employees only" areas of the Hub for much of the same reasons (have had to do that a couple of times) that is why they also DON'T like or else permit ANYONE off-the-clock to be in the Package Car. Period.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magnus, post: 790851, member: 22193"] [B]dorhugs[/B], your friend needs to stay OFF of the Package Car when he/she is NOT on-the-clock. Suffice it to say in the short-hand that nothing good would happen for either him/her or his/her Driver if they somehow managed to get into an accident or else he/she ended up injured some other way doing their job, but not actually doing their job because technically, they ARE NOT supposed to be there - PERIOD. Your friend AND his/her Driver would get into a hell of a lot of trouble if ANYONE found out what was going on - your friend would be terminated on the spot, but the Driver will merely get a slap on the wrist (warning) in comparison to the HELPER'S punishment for this infraction of corporate policy. Another $8.50 is NOT worth those risks! On that note, I make Pickups EVERYDAY on the route I am on and handle more than 80% of those services by myself while the Driver does his own thing (lines up the next stops, or else dumps some off himself). I am on the clock and am being paid for services rendered. Whoever is saying we're not allowed to be used for Pickups IS full of BS. There is no rule on the books saying we can't fulfill that duty as part of our "help". The Driver probably makes that call him/herself so that SPORH doesn't take a dump or so that he/she won't get any "clicks" against them by keeping the Helper on the clock during the largely more time-consuming Pickup services. In that event, your friend needs to tell someone what is going on and preferably BEFORE they get caught! The Driver may be a "cool guy", but that doesn't justify the potentially harmful situation he is putting your friend into by allowing him to sit there during Pickups while not on the clock! Liability is taken seriously at UPS... if you're a Helper off-the-clock, they don't even like you to go into the "employees only" areas of the Hub for much of the same reasons (have had to do that a couple of times) that is why they also DON'T like or else permit ANYONE off-the-clock to be in the Package Car. Period. [/QUOTE]
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