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<blockquote data-quote="raceanoncr" data-source="post: 645915" data-attributes="member: 6408"><p>No, I DON'T see what you were trying to say. </p><p> </p><p>The kid says it sounds too unethical for UPS to get away with. I say you ain't seen nothin yet. You come back with the "unethical union" to counter. I round with SOME of the company misdeeds I've witnessed. You now say that both are at fault and do I understand? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/confused.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":confused2:" title="Confused :confused2:" data-shortname=":confused2:" /></p><p> </p><p>Uh, yeah, I think.</p><p> </p><p>Let me clarify MY point. The kid mentioned UPS being ethical or unethical. I merely told him to hold on to his shorts. If he would have said Union AND UPS, I would have said the same thing. YOU had to make a point of saying or, rather, inferring, the UNION was the unethical one. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, I do agree, both are at fault, in this case and in many cases. Here, I think if it's in the Union's power, drop all fees and dues for temporary, seasonal workers. If it's in the company's power, PAY all fees and dues for temporary, seasonal workers. If it's in legislature's power, drop all language in whatever law there is so that these people can work without all these ridiculous rules for God's sake! </p><p> </p><p>But you know what? If it's in the hands of these states legislators, it won't get done. If it's in the hands of UPS, it won't get done. If it's in the hands of the UNION, it won't get done. So what do you have? A lose-lose situation. You got the Union that got the money but soured a potential member on ever holding a union job again because they made absolutely NOTHING for a few weeks! You got the company, UPS, that lost a potential good worker because he/she feels UPS could have done more to help them. You got the worker that's pissed off at everyone involved.</p><p> </p><p>I'm all for "right-to-work" and "non-right-to-work" issues, but, my God, use some common sense!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raceanoncr, post: 645915, member: 6408"] No, I DON'T see what you were trying to say. The kid says it sounds too unethical for UPS to get away with. I say you ain't seen nothin yet. You come back with the "unethical union" to counter. I round with SOME of the company misdeeds I've witnessed. You now say that both are at fault and do I understand? :confused2: Uh, yeah, I think. Let me clarify MY point. The kid mentioned UPS being ethical or unethical. I merely told him to hold on to his shorts. If he would have said Union AND UPS, I would have said the same thing. YOU had to make a point of saying or, rather, inferring, the UNION was the unethical one. Yes, I do agree, both are at fault, in this case and in many cases. Here, I think if it's in the Union's power, drop all fees and dues for temporary, seasonal workers. If it's in the company's power, PAY all fees and dues for temporary, seasonal workers. If it's in legislature's power, drop all language in whatever law there is so that these people can work without all these ridiculous rules for God's sake! But you know what? If it's in the hands of these states legislators, it won't get done. If it's in the hands of UPS, it won't get done. If it's in the hands of the UNION, it won't get done. So what do you have? A lose-lose situation. You got the Union that got the money but soured a potential member on ever holding a union job again because they made absolutely NOTHING for a few weeks! You got the company, UPS, that lost a potential good worker because he/she feels UPS could have done more to help them. You got the worker that's pissed off at everyone involved. I'm all for "right-to-work" and "non-right-to-work" issues, but, my God, use some common sense! [/QUOTE]
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