Here's A Bone For You MFE

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by APettyJ, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...247473-fedex-drivers-have-been-more-than.html

    "The Investigative Unit has found that drives[sic] for FedEx Freight, a division of FedEx, have been in 730 accidents in the past two years, and have been cited more than 679 times for unsafe driving."

    "Traffic accidents are even more common than traffic violations. Over the past two years, FedEx drivers have been involved in 730 nationally 43 of those incidents happened in California, which include two fatalities prior to Thursday’s accident."
     
  2. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Thanks for the link. My primary target has been FedEx Ground, which has a really bad safety record, but it sounds like FedEx Freight might also have some issues. My guess is that FedEx Freight can't attract top-notch drivers, primarily due to working conditions, aggressive bad management, and other job-related factors. FedEx might also be pushing drivers to be more "productive" like they have at the Express division, which means drive faster and do more work...for less money than the competition.

    If FedEx Freight is dirty, the NTSB is going to nail them. Too early to tell what caused this tragic wreck, but it looks like FedEx Freight already has plenty of safety issues to worry about.
     
  3. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Oh they have. I've talked to several Freight drivers and it's like Express all over. Productivity, micromanaging, crappy management etc.

    I'm sure safety will be the next "hot button" for the next week, or so.
     
  4. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Ditto....If you think us Express drivers have a bad taste in our mouths it's nothing compared to the old American Freightways drivers.....
    Fred has spread his seed of death across this country...
     
  5. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    The first thing FedEx does when they take over a company is to put in place Express-style management. Very soon thereafter, bad things start happening. Wonder why...
     
  6. HomeDelivery

    HomeDelivery Well-Known Member

  7. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    If a vehicle has to be towed away, that is a serious accident.

    If there were 720 incidents of FedEx drivers in fender benders and taking off mirrors that would be concerning! These totals don't even include minor accidents.

    What's crazy about this high number is that, according to the forum thread I linked to, FedEx Freight doesn't just hire any driver off the street. They must have a minimum 2 years experience to drive. If that is true, that reflects very poorly on their safety culture.
     
  8. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    There's a reason why we don't get check rides anymore. They don't care about our methods or safety, just our numbers at the end of the day.
     
  9. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    The safety culture at FedEx is long gone, and replaced with a profit culture. Fred Smith isn't losing any sleep over the 10 people who were killed. His concerns are liability, and preventing having to spend more money to actually create and provide a safety culture. It's all about increasing production and cutting costs. Sure, they talk about safety, and then require employees to do things that directly contradict a safety culture.
     
  10. prodriver

    prodriver Guest

    Fred did make a comment about the 10 people, what does FedEx require employees to do that contradict a safety culture.
     
  11. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Threatening our jobs on a daily basis about hitting numbers.
    Ignoring any and all safety concerns brought up to management.
    The huge number of employees being injured and cracking up trucks should be a clue.
     
  12. prodriver

    prodriver Guest

    Someone's safety should be most important part of any job, you mean they overload you and still expect you to hit #s and threaten to fire you if you don't?
     
  13. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    What Downhill said is exactly correct. They preach "safety" and then proceed to overtask you and make demands that preclude safety. As in "drive safely", but here's 140 stops, and you'd better make SPH and not have any lates. Impossible.
     
  14. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Wow, a word from His Highness. Smith knows that FedEx looks bad in this one, and he is doing spin control/PR. I'd be much more impressed if he offers to assist the families of the victims if FedEx is at-fault. If the truck on fire, driver asleep or unconscious scenario is correct, FedEx is on the hook for it.

    After seeing the Freight FMCSA, I think the Feds really need to start looking hard at all of the FedEx opcos. The push for productivity at Express almost guarantees something like this happening at the Express opco, and I've been predicting it for quite awhile.

    It is inevitable, in fact, given the current non-safety/produce or else culture at Express. I would like to see Fred hanging by his gonads for making all of this death and injury (not Orland) possible.

    My district has had several very bad accidents since the Big Push started, with one innocent motorist killed and a lot of terrible injuries. Slow down, be safe, and don't care about their ranting to do more. Only do what you can without compromising safety.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2014
  15. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Exactly. Dead couriers, motorists, cyclists etc. are all just collateral damage. As long as Fred saves his $1.7B and everyone makes their numbers...he is happy. I suspect it's much the same at Freight. We already know that dead drivers at Ground are of little consequence to Mr. Smith.
     
  16. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Fixed it for you.
     
  17. prodriver

    prodriver Guest

    Years ago when I was at ground, for a good while I went out slammed everyday so I requested a "ride along" and about a month later got route cut back to manageable, just wanted to add that in there that ground actually does this. By the way I've never had at fault accident.
     
  18. prodriver

    prodriver Guest

    I see.
     
  19. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Interesting.

    UPS is finding that it is way, way, way cheaper to spend money on safety, than it is to spend money on crashes. I would not be a bit surprised if UPS approaches the union at some point to put together a wellness program that would reduce costs in terms of insurance, disability and comp.

    You would think the same safety economics that UPS is seeing, FE would see also.
     
  20. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    You would think so, but no. Safety is expensive, but it more than pays for itself in the long run. An expensive lesson Fred will learn the hard way.