Here's a thread for you managers.

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by ups1990, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. ups1990

    ups1990 Well-Known Member

    We drivers constantly complain about a number of topics but never talk about the good supervisors.

    Just a few years back we had a young center manager who really never drove but was respected by a majority of drivers. Men gravitated to him(not that way) he was charismatic, fair and tough. He was almost like a football coach in our center. Our PCM's were inspiring and uplifting and sometimes they were down right intimidating to the point where you had that extra giddy up that day. We sometimes need a person to motivate us even thou we're all men and women being paid as professionals.
     
  2. Spunkeymonkey

    Spunkeymonkey New Member

    Easier said than done. Managers have the life sucked out of them almost as soon as they are hired. You can watch the new ones bright eyed and bushy tailed turn surly within weeks. They are puppets on a string held to unreasonable expectations. They are held accountable for others mistakes above them and have to implement action plans to correct the issues when they did not cause and have no power to correct. You are union, have a guaranteed contract with annual raises. These guys did not get raises for 2 almost 3 years. You need to pump them up as they have no recourse and would probably join a union themselves if the option existed. Unless they make it to the ivory tower their work life is not fulfilling and stressful beyond comprehension. Put the shoe not the other foot and offer up your praise and perhaps together you can lament and hope for better things together.
     
  3. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    21 years ago ,3 months after I gained seniority my mom died.
    My 2 on car sups at the time showed up at the funeral,and ups sent flowers.
    I was impressed .
    Cutbacks.The shareholders get our turkeys now.
     
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member


    More likely the mistakes of the people who report to them.


    Rest of it seems about right.
     
  5. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    If they treated us like professionals you would find that the us vs. Them mentality would be greatly decreased. They treat us like a piece of machinery...if it breaks throw it out and get another. No offence but this post has you drinking the coolaid
     
  6. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    You are such a cog!
     
  7. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain part-time bossman

    everyone is a cog in one wheel or another
     
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member



    That was sort of my point so I agree.
     
  9. UPSviking

    UPSviking New Member

    Edited for spelling
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2011
  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Just out of curiosity, do you ever see the ceo and coo?
     
  11. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    If he does, I would love for him to express my extreme desire to have a little chat with them.
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    No, I am not in the Corporate office ... I am about 12 miles north.
    I do not like the feel of the Corporate office and stay out of their as best I can.
    I worked there for 8 years and saw the CEO and COO quite often ... they are both retired now.
    I worked with Eskew on a few projects so I would stop very occasionally and say hello.
    Winestock was my last Division Manager while I was in Operations so he and I would talk often. He has a very sarcastic sense of humor.
     
  13. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    If you had the opportunity, and you were limited to only three subjects, what would they be?
     
  14. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I will ponder this today and report back. I don't want to just fire from the hip on this, like I do on most everything else.
     
  15. sosocal

    sosocal New Member

    Hoax- you said you spent time in Corporate and have an operations stint as well...Maybe you can answer the question I have often wondered...Do THEY REALLY know what it is like out here in the trenches?...
     
  16. tenandcounting

    tenandcounting New Member

    They were well aware of what they were getting.You will never get a compliment from me.
     
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    No, not really.
    They have selective memories and consequently an idealized perception of life in the trenches. It's still a partnership to them.
     
  18. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Hoak, Seeing Eskews name brought back a memory of a fun time in my career. I had a center manager that was extremely paranoid, therefore the target of many pranks. One day I wrote my name in the next box of a house mail envelope, crossed it off, wrote "Mike Eskews" name, crossed it off and wrote my name again. This made it look like I had this personal correspondance with Mr Big. I left some old scrap meaningless report inside, sealed the envelope and left it on the center manager's desk. He talked very differently to me after that. You gotta have a little fun.

    Quick question...Did you ever get a chance to meet Jim Casey? He stopped by our center in '75 or'76 and I got the chance to shake the man's hand. Wonder what he'd think of his company today?
     
  19. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I met him on the same tour he was making I guess. I was a P/T sup and got to meet him and shake his hand and introduced myself. I ran across him an hour or two later and he remembered my name. Since then, I have learned remembering names like this was something he took pride in.
     
  20. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    How is this one (three subjects) coming along? :happy2: