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<blockquote data-quote="Dracula" data-source="post: 1213299" data-attributes="member: 42691"><p>Look, I've got nothing against you. But your view on everything needs some years of perspective. That is definitely not to say just because your newer your view doesn't count. It does. </p><p></p><p>But just because there are a lot of negative people around here doesn't mean the down view isn't valid too. </p><p></p><p>I won't ever pretend to speak for anyone else but myself, but next year will be my 30TH year here, and I've done nearly every job you could have done. Without a doubt, package car is, by far, the toughest job at this company. And I had to switch hubs and wait 6 years to get that job.</p><p></p><p>I preloaded for 6 years, and this was when we had to look up sequence numbers, from charts on the back of package cars, write the # on the package then load it where it was supposed to go. Preloading was EASY compared to living in a package car for 12 hours a day. While I preloaded, I also went to college, and then, worked another job when I crapped out in school. </p><p></p><p>I really can't argue with you about the view of perspective. That goes for anything in life. ANYTHING. But that same view of perspective can also blind you to the fist flying towards your face. Things have changed for the worse with this company, and that is probably why a lot of the old timers bitch and moan about the way things are now. </p><p></p><p>But make no mistake, while it is fine to be glad you have this job, it is down right ignorant to compare yourself to any other job. For all of the complainers you speak of in these forums, there are just as many people who feel we should kiss the UPS brass ring, and be glad where we are, and accept anything they offer us.</p><p></p><p>Think what you want, but that is the quickest way to become like all of the things those people compare us to. Yeah, we've got good insurance, but Fed/Ex doesn't, so we should listen to UPS and accept what FDX gets. When going into contract negotiations, when FDX tries to cannibalize our business, we should cut our wages, our work rules and be glad we have a step or two above the rest of America.</p><p></p><p>Look, be realistic. You are young. The chances are, the pension will be long gone when you reach retirement. Central States tells you to your face that they pay out two dollars for every dollar they take in. Do that math, and consider your options. Barrel up on your stocks and 401k. If you know what you know now, then you make your own retirement. </p><p></p><p>Many of the conservatives ?? in these forums, bitch and whine about Obamacare, but if they would take a breath or two, they would realize that they are in the cat bird's seat. We have, at a minimum, five years of our own insurance. Obamacare will either get worked out, repealed or get tattooed on American skin, but the waters should be smooth if we ever quit our healthcare plan.</p><p></p><p>But the bigger point here, is we, as a group need to be strong, and not. be. intimidated. By other workers; by UPS; and especially by our own union. </p><p></p><p>You can see examples of this by simply searching contract threads and reading how the pro-union people paint a picture of devastation if we don't approve our current contract proposal.</p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm saying is, make up your own mind. If the company is making record bank, don't buy the pennies in the palm sob stories from the company or union.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dracula, post: 1213299, member: 42691"] Look, I've got nothing against you. But your view on everything needs some years of perspective. That is definitely not to say just because your newer your view doesn't count. It does. But just because there are a lot of negative people around here doesn't mean the down view isn't valid too. I won't ever pretend to speak for anyone else but myself, but next year will be my 30TH year here, and I've done nearly every job you could have done. Without a doubt, package car is, by far, the toughest job at this company. And I had to switch hubs and wait 6 years to get that job. I preloaded for 6 years, and this was when we had to look up sequence numbers, from charts on the back of package cars, write the # on the package then load it where it was supposed to go. Preloading was EASY compared to living in a package car for 12 hours a day. While I preloaded, I also went to college, and then, worked another job when I crapped out in school. I really can't argue with you about the view of perspective. That goes for anything in life. ANYTHING. But that same view of perspective can also blind you to the fist flying towards your face. Things have changed for the worse with this company, and that is probably why a lot of the old timers bitch and moan about the way things are now. But make no mistake, while it is fine to be glad you have this job, it is down right ignorant to compare yourself to any other job. For all of the complainers you speak of in these forums, there are just as many people who feel we should kiss the UPS brass ring, and be glad where we are, and accept anything they offer us. Think what you want, but that is the quickest way to become like all of the things those people compare us to. Yeah, we've got good insurance, but Fed/Ex doesn't, so we should listen to UPS and accept what FDX gets. When going into contract negotiations, when FDX tries to cannibalize our business, we should cut our wages, our work rules and be glad we have a step or two above the rest of America. Look, be realistic. You are young. The chances are, the pension will be long gone when you reach retirement. Central States tells you to your face that they pay out two dollars for every dollar they take in. Do that math, and consider your options. Barrel up on your stocks and 401k. If you know what you know now, then you make your own retirement. Many of the conservatives ?? in these forums, bitch and whine about Obamacare, but if they would take a breath or two, they would realize that they are in the cat bird's seat. We have, at a minimum, five years of our own insurance. Obamacare will either get worked out, repealed or get tattooed on American skin, but the waters should be smooth if we ever quit our healthcare plan. But the bigger point here, is we, as a group need to be strong, and not. be. intimidated. By other workers; by UPS; and especially by our own union. You can see examples of this by simply searching contract threads and reading how the pro-union people paint a picture of devastation if we don't approve our current contract proposal. I guess what I'm saying is, make up your own mind. If the company is making record bank, don't buy the pennies in the palm sob stories from the company or union. [/QUOTE]
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