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<blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 845061" data-attributes="member: 23950"><p><strong>Great fake and expensive Coalition that sure was !</strong></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0b0080">Iraq War</span></a> critics such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">John Pilger</span></a> have pointed out that the vast majority of troops provided came from the U.S. and Britain and is therefore accurately described as a predominantly Anglo-American force rather than as a coalition.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Salon.com</span></a> columnist Laura McClure, noting the large amounts of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_aid" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">foreign aid</span></a> being offered in exchange for supporting the Iraq War, referred to Bush's coalition as the "Coalition of the billing".<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-7" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[8]</span></a></p><p> </p><p>In the second debate in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2004" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">2004 U.S. presidential election</span></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Democratic_Party" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Democratic</span></a> presidential candidate <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">John Kerry</span></a> questioned the size of the coalition participating in the initial invasion, saying, "...when we went in, there were three countries: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Great Britain</span></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Australia</span></a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">United States</span></a>. That's not a grand coalition. We can do better". Bush responded by saying, "Well, actually, he forgot Poland. And now there's 30 nations involved, standing side by side with our American troops". The phrase "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_forgot_Poland" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">You forgot Poland</span></a>" subsequently became a sarcastic shorthand for the perception that most members of the coalition were not contributing much to the war effort compared to the main three allies. The majority of the population in most countries involved did not, according to surveys, support the endeavour or their nation's participation.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-8" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[9]</span></a></p><p>Late <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">U.S. Senator</span></a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Robert Byrd</span></a>, then ranking <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Democrat</span></a> on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Appropriations_Committee" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Senate Appropriations Committee</span></a>, referred to the coalition formed for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">2003 invasion of Iraq</span></a> by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">acronym</span></a> COW, expressing his concern that the United States was being "milked" as a "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_cow" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">cash cow</span></a>". </p><p> </p><p>A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_House_of_Commons" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Canadian Members of Parliament</span></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Parrish" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Carolyn Parrish</span></a>, referred to the "Coalition of the Willing" as the "Coalition of the Idiots". She was reprimanded for these comments, and was eventually removed from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Liberal Party of Canada</span></a> caucus following a long-standing dispute with Prime Minister <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Martin" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Paul Martin</span></a> over policy.</p><p> </p><p>The list of coalition members provided by the White House included several nations that did not intend to participate in actual military operations. Some of them, such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands" target="_blank">Marshall Islands</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia" target="_blank">Micronesia</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau" target="_blank">Palau</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands" target="_blank">Solomon Islands</a>, do not have standing armies.</p><p>The government of one country, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Solomon Islands</span></a>, listed by the White House as a member of the coalition, was apparently unaware of any such membership and promptly denied it.</p><p><span style="color: #0645ad"><span style="color: #000000">Some of them, such as </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Marshall Islands</span></a><span style="color: #000000">, </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Micronesia</span></a><span style="color: #000000">, </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Palau</span></a><span style="color: #000000"> and </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Solomon Islands</span></a><span style="color: #000000">, do not have standing armies. However, through the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Compact of Free Association</span></a><span style="color: #000000">, citizens the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Marshall Islands</span></a><span style="color: #000000">, </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Palau</span></a><span style="color: #000000"> and the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_States_of_Micronesia" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Federated States of Micronesia</span></a></span><span style="color: #000000"> are guaranteed US national status and therefore are allowed to serve in the US military.</span></p><p> </p><p>In December 2008, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Illinois" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">University of Illinois</span></a> Professor Scott Althaus reported that he had learned that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">White House</span></a> was editing and back-dating revisions to the list of countries in the coalition.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-DailyIllini-4" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[5]</span></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-TheRawStory-5" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[6]</span></a> Althaus found that some versions of the list had been entirely removed from the record, and that others contradicted one another, as opposed to the procedure of archiving original documents and supplementing them with later revisions and updates</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klein, post: 845061, member: 23950"] [B]Great fake and expensive Coalition that sure was ![/B] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War"][COLOR=#0b0080]Iraq War[/COLOR][/URL] critics such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger"][COLOR=#0645ad]John Pilger[/COLOR][/URL] have pointed out that the vast majority of troops provided came from the U.S. and Britain and is therefore accurately described as a predominantly Anglo-American force rather than as a coalition. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon.com"][COLOR=#0645ad]Salon.com[/COLOR][/URL] columnist Laura McClure, noting the large amounts of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_aid"][COLOR=#0645ad]foreign aid[/COLOR][/URL] being offered in exchange for supporting the Iraq War, referred to Bush's coalition as the "Coalition of the billing".[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-7"][COLOR=#0645ad][8][/COLOR][/URL] In the second debate in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2004"][COLOR=#0645ad]2004 U.S. presidential election[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Democratic_Party"][COLOR=#0645ad]Democratic[/COLOR][/URL] presidential candidate [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry"][COLOR=#0645ad]John Kerry[/COLOR][/URL] questioned the size of the coalition participating in the initial invasion, saying, "...when we went in, there were three countries: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom"][COLOR=#0645ad]Great Britain[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia"][COLOR=#0645ad]Australia[/COLOR][/URL] and the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States"][COLOR=#0645ad]United States[/COLOR][/URL]. That's not a grand coalition. We can do better". Bush responded by saying, "Well, actually, he forgot Poland. And now there's 30 nations involved, standing side by side with our American troops". The phrase "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_forgot_Poland"][COLOR=#0645ad]You forgot Poland[/COLOR][/URL]" subsequently became a sarcastic shorthand for the perception that most members of the coalition were not contributing much to the war effort compared to the main three allies. The majority of the population in most countries involved did not, according to surveys, support the endeavour or their nation's participation.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-8"][COLOR=#0645ad][9][/COLOR][/URL] Late [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate"][COLOR=#0645ad]U.S. Senator[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd"][COLOR=#0645ad]Robert Byrd[/COLOR][/URL], then ranking [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)"][COLOR=#0645ad]Democrat[/COLOR][/URL] on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Appropriations_Committee"][COLOR=#0645ad]Senate Appropriations Committee[/COLOR][/URL], referred to the coalition formed for the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq"][COLOR=#0645ad]2003 invasion of Iraq[/COLOR][/URL] by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym"][COLOR=#0645ad]acronym[/COLOR][/URL] COW, expressing his concern that the United States was being "milked" as a "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_cow"][COLOR=#0645ad]cash cow[/COLOR][/URL]". A [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_House_of_Commons"][COLOR=#0645ad]Canadian Members of Parliament[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Parrish"][COLOR=#0645ad]Carolyn Parrish[/COLOR][/URL], referred to the "Coalition of the Willing" as the "Coalition of the Idiots". She was reprimanded for these comments, and was eventually removed from the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada"][COLOR=#0645ad]Liberal Party of Canada[/COLOR][/URL] caucus following a long-standing dispute with Prime Minister [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Martin"][COLOR=#0645ad]Paul Martin[/COLOR][/URL] over policy. The list of coalition members provided by the White House included several nations that did not intend to participate in actual military operations. Some of them, such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands"]Marshall Islands[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia"]Micronesia[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau"]Palau[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands"]Solomon Islands[/URL], do not have standing armies. The government of one country, the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands"][COLOR=#0645ad]Solomon Islands[/COLOR][/URL], listed by the White House as a member of the coalition, was apparently unaware of any such membership and promptly denied it. [COLOR=#0645ad][COLOR=#000000]Some of them, such as [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands"][COLOR=#0645ad]Marshall Islands[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia"][COLOR=#0645ad]Micronesia[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau"][COLOR=#0645ad]Palau[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands"][COLOR=#0645ad]Solomon Islands[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], do not have standing armies. However, through the [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association"][COLOR=#0645ad]Compact of Free Association[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], citizens the [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands"][COLOR=#0645ad]Marshall Islands[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau"][COLOR=#0645ad]Palau[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and the [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_States_of_Micronesia"][COLOR=#0645ad]Federated States of Micronesia[/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] are guaranteed US national status and therefore are allowed to serve in the US military.[/COLOR] In December 2008, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Illinois"][COLOR=#0645ad]University of Illinois[/COLOR][/URL] Professor Scott Althaus reported that he had learned that the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House"][COLOR=#0645ad]White House[/COLOR][/URL] was editing and back-dating revisions to the list of countries in the coalition.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-DailyIllini-4"][COLOR=#0645ad][5][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing#cite_note-TheRawStory-5"][COLOR=#0645ad][6][/COLOR][/URL] Althaus found that some versions of the list had been entirely removed from the record, and that others contradicted one another, as opposed to the procedure of archiving original documents and supplementing them with later revisions and updates [/QUOTE]
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