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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 854084" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Boy oh boy... where to start. Lets start with social security. You have to understand, Social Security isnt failing because its a "failing" program, not at all, its a program that was intended on helping women and children who were widowed during WWII. It was expanded later to include senior citizens due to the rising cost of living and the standards of wages that were so low from 1920 through 1966 that an average person could not save enough to retire on. </p><p></p><p>This voluntary program was working fine until Ronald Reagan starting placing I.O.U's into the fund while growing the military arm of this country with YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY money. Again with BUSH 1 social security was borrowed from, then with Clinton, he also took money out of the fund.</p><p></p><p>Read this:</p><p>"</p><p>So what did Reagan and his boys do? The gang-that-couldn’t-count-straight decided that here was a pile of money they could steal to make themselves look better. And so they did. They took $84.5 billion from Social Security surpluses and spent it. They spent all of it in order to cut the size of the public debt. In 1988, for example, the national debt was $194 billion dollars. But by spending our Social Security funds, the Reagan Administration reported a deficit of only $155.2 billion. They took $38.8 billion of our Social Security funds to spend presumably on tax cuts and missiles for Iran. (Iran-gate.)</p><p>Fast forward to George H.W. Bush. He had deficits between 1989 and 1992 of $205 billion, $277 billion, $321 billion, and $340 billion. During that same period he stole from us $52 billion, $57 billion, $52 billion and $50 billion to make those numbers smaller when reported to the public.</p><p>Next came Clinton, who tried to do something about the deficits, which is about all that can be said for him. In 1993, he still had a deficit of $300 billion and although they went down every year ($258 b, $226 b, $174 b, $103 b, $30 b, and then went positive…$1.9 b and $87 b, he continued to spend our Social Security. For example, in 1998, when the deficit was $30 billion, the announced government <em>surplus</em> was $69.2 billion. But that was by using $99.2 billion of the Social Security surplus."" (end)</p><p></p><p>The fund should have been left alone, but politicians stole that money DIRECTLY from YOU.</p><p></p><p>Next came the exodus of jobs out of this country. A republican plan begining with NAFTA. As each job leaves the country so does employee contributions to social security. In order for social security to remain solid, it needs to operate on "a dollar in for a dollar out" principle.</p><p></p><p>That is no longer the case with over 14 million jobs being sent out of this country.</p><p></p><p>You want a solution to fixing social security? </p><p></p><p>Cutting it isnt the answer. Returing jobs to this country is.</p><p></p><p>The blame falls on the republicans and big business for creating this mess in social security.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 854084, member: 17969"] Boy oh boy... where to start. Lets start with social security. You have to understand, Social Security isnt failing because its a "failing" program, not at all, its a program that was intended on helping women and children who were widowed during WWII. It was expanded later to include senior citizens due to the rising cost of living and the standards of wages that were so low from 1920 through 1966 that an average person could not save enough to retire on. This voluntary program was working fine until Ronald Reagan starting placing I.O.U's into the fund while growing the military arm of this country with YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY money. Again with BUSH 1 social security was borrowed from, then with Clinton, he also took money out of the fund. Read this: " So what did Reagan and his boys do? The gang-that-couldn’t-count-straight decided that here was a pile of money they could steal to make themselves look better. And so they did. They took $84.5 billion from Social Security surpluses and spent it. They spent all of it in order to cut the size of the public debt. In 1988, for example, the national debt was $194 billion dollars. But by spending our Social Security funds, the Reagan Administration reported a deficit of only $155.2 billion. They took $38.8 billion of our Social Security funds to spend presumably on tax cuts and missiles for Iran. (Iran-gate.) Fast forward to George H.W. Bush. He had deficits between 1989 and 1992 of $205 billion, $277 billion, $321 billion, and $340 billion. During that same period he stole from us $52 billion, $57 billion, $52 billion and $50 billion to make those numbers smaller when reported to the public. Next came Clinton, who tried to do something about the deficits, which is about all that can be said for him. In 1993, he still had a deficit of $300 billion and although they went down every year ($258 b, $226 b, $174 b, $103 b, $30 b, and then went positive…$1.9 b and $87 b, he continued to spend our Social Security. For example, in 1998, when the deficit was $30 billion, the announced government [I]surplus[/I] was $69.2 billion. But that was by using $99.2 billion of the Social Security surplus."" (end) The fund should have been left alone, but politicians stole that money DIRECTLY from YOU. Next came the exodus of jobs out of this country. A republican plan begining with NAFTA. As each job leaves the country so does employee contributions to social security. In order for social security to remain solid, it needs to operate on "a dollar in for a dollar out" principle. That is no longer the case with over 14 million jobs being sent out of this country. You want a solution to fixing social security? Cutting it isnt the answer. Returing jobs to this country is. The blame falls on the republicans and big business for creating this mess in social security. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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