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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 957113" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>More,</p><p></p><p>The sad thing is our entire transportation structure from cars, to trains, to jets is all built on socialized costs and always has been. Obama's a laughing stock and worthless as tits on a boar hog but I'm not foolish enough to think that the whole world turned upside down the moment he was sworn in as President. </p><p></p><p>Also accepting that all forms of transportation in this country are heavily socialized to begin with and by no means a result of true market actions nor have ever been in our modern sense, William Lind of The American Conservative's <a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/cpt/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Center for Public Transportation</span></a> makes a strong case based on economic costs that rail systems in cost per mile is far cheaper than the cost of roads and it's real costs per mile. Lind's Rail Against the Machine offers his perspective of the ideal of cars verses rail argument and on other grounds I might argue the state's involvement in transportation in the first place but in the current model of transportation socialization, I find Lind's argument having real merit when you start considering the real total costs that we pay as a society and even on the individual level which is how Lind is looking at it. And on the present premise, he would be right.</p><p></p><p>Once again 804 and his NYer friends will pay for roads in Georgia so to speak regardless of which political party or which side of the isle controls public policy when the far more cost effective use of public monies might well be to use existing rail lines towards public transportation means.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 957113, member: 2189"] More, The sad thing is our entire transportation structure from cars, to trains, to jets is all built on socialized costs and always has been. Obama's a laughing stock and worthless as tits on a boar hog but I'm not foolish enough to think that the whole world turned upside down the moment he was sworn in as President. Also accepting that all forms of transportation in this country are heavily socialized to begin with and by no means a result of true market actions nor have ever been in our modern sense, William Lind of The American Conservative's [URL='http://www.theamericanconservative.com/cpt/'][COLOR=#ff0000]Center for Public Transportation[/COLOR][/URL] makes a strong case based on economic costs that rail systems in cost per mile is far cheaper than the cost of roads and it's real costs per mile. Lind's Rail Against the Machine offers his perspective of the ideal of cars verses rail argument and on other grounds I might argue the state's involvement in transportation in the first place but in the current model of transportation socialization, I find Lind's argument having real merit when you start considering the real total costs that we pay as a society and even on the individual level which is how Lind is looking at it. And on the present premise, he would be right. Once again 804 and his NYer friends will pay for roads in Georgia so to speak regardless of which political party or which side of the isle controls public policy when the far more cost effective use of public monies might well be to use existing rail lines towards public transportation means. [/QUOTE]
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