Hilary Clinton

[wkmac]

Clinton won't rein Wall Street in...

Neither will any candidate on the R side.

True but I'll go one step farther. NO CANDIDATE CAN REIN IN WALL STREET!

And candidate or political party who tries to do so, thanks to the gov't itself (along with its mega Corp. co-partners) in centralizing the economy among other things, Wall Street can tweak a few dials and the economy comes to a halt. And these corporations aren't concerned with slowdowns, unlike you and I they are first in line for bailouts. Then the offending politician or party is thrown out and when the new comes to power and plays ball, the valve is re-opened and a kind of perceived normalcy returns. We even accept the illusion that they are better with the economy than the other guys are.

And look at any political maverick that emerges to challenge the status quo, from Ron Paul and his free market ideals to a Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader and their more social democratic approach, the very same forces that crushed one also crushed the other. Is there something to be said there?

The last 30 years of the 20th century was the beginning of the conclusion of the destruction IMO of the small town or mainstreet economy that for better or worse made the middle class what it was. People not only made their living locally but they saved locally too. Much of those savings were re-invested in the local economy which made mainstreet stronger. The mega centralized powers, Corp and State had a harder time twisting those knobs then for their benefit and most politics as a result were local and decentralized as well. That all ended in the 70's and accelerated in the 80's and 90's and have never looked back since.

I think we've gone to far to go back now if one is out to avoid pain and it's nothing but a race to the bottom regardless which side of the isle prevails on any election day. On that day the pain is going to be really bad. REALLY BAD! When that is can not be determined but history is filled with examples and I see no effort at all to avoid the repeating of history.

The late Bill Hicks might have been closer to the truth of reality than any of us want to admit that it is.

 

[BrownArmy]

Agreed, but It's comical watching all candidates on both sides making promises they have neither the intention nor the ability to keep...

 

[wkmac]

Even more comical are the people who swallow hook, line and sinker the belief that they will keep those promises.

 

[Sportello]

Even more comical are the people who swallow hook, line and sinker the belief that they will keep those promises.

Wait, you mean politicians don't keep their promises?

 

[wkmac]

 

[moreluck]

Hillary Clinton fended off questions about her e-mail scandal during Monday's televised town hall meeting on CNN. The FBI has one hundred-fifty agents working the case. No one wants to say Hillary could be indicted any day now, but this morning the dry cleaners made her pay in advance.
-Argus Hamilton-

 

[Babagounj]

Those jumping fish have been known to kill people .

 

[Babagounj]

https://earloftaint.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/free-hillary.jpg

 

[wkmac]

Those jumping fish have been known to kill people .

So do voters.

 

[wkmac]

I still think Bernie Sanders is a gatekeeper but it sure is fun watching House of Clinton starting to crack and crumble. Bernie sure shot across Hillary's and thus the Democrat power structure's bow last night and I see Iowa as a win for Bernie. If Bernie getting the nomination takes down House Clinton, then I'm a Bernie fan on this point alone. Still don't trust him but then I don't trust any of the MFers!

The sooner the House of Clinton and House of Bush go into the dustbin of history, the better for everyone. Even Rand Paul beat Jeb Bush last night so his campaign and those under him are walking towards the execution chamber soon to be followed by Paul and Carson.

Trump was the real loser last night and Cruz would kill himself in the general if he doesn't do so through the primaries. Rubio seems to be the horse whose breaking outside for a run to the front. If he sustains in NH, watch out as he may enter the spring political season with a "down the stretch" run to the nomination. This is the kind of candidate the GOP power structure likes to begin with and they seem to always get what they want regardless what anybody else wants.

And finally, the irony that a "socialist" in Bernie Sanders may do what the GOP has been trying to do for years and always been unsuccessful at it!

 

[moreluck]

Whether the house of Clinton crumbles or we have our first woman president, how does it feel, as a non-voter, to not participate?

 

[Sportello]

@wkmac, you'de better hope Bernie comes through.

I agree that you can't trust any of them, but Bernie would shake it up. The others are advocating legalized rape.

 

[newfie]

Whether the house of Clinton crumbles or we have our first woman president, how does it feel, as a non-voter, to not participate?

it does give you an air of superiority ...

 

[wkmac]

Whether the house of Clinton crumbles or we have our first woman president, how does it feel, as a non-voter, to not participate?

Feels pretty good actually.

@wkmac, you'de better hope Bernie comes through.

I agree that you can't trust any of them, but Bernie would shake it up. The others are advocating legalized rape.

You, for that matter every one that votes with good intentions aside, have the expectation that by just electing the right person, good things can happen. Understandable! Been there, done that too. From a majority point of view, every election fits that bill because their guy/or gal wins and yet we just sink deeper and deeper under the same old problems and conditions.

We keep doing the same ole thing over and over and we get an outcome that just makes it worse rather than better. We tell ourselves otherwise just to keep us motivated to go back for more of the same.

But things are starting to change and I'm hearing a common reframe more and more amongst people in general. Credit to @rod in expressing this very sentiment.

Its a lose lose for the American public with the pool of candidates running. What a bunch of misfits---both sides.

Rod nailed it!

There's much more to say but I'll leave it there for now.

 

[moreluck]

 

[moreluck]

 

[rickyb]

Hillary Clinton fended off questions about her e-mail scandal during Monday's televised town hall meeting on CNN. The FBI has one hundred-fifty agents working the case. No one wants to say Hillary could be indicted any day now, but this morning the dry cleaners made her pay in advance.
-Argus Hamilton-

i find it hard to believe anything will happen to her, including anything that could ruin her run as dictator i mean president. shes too powerful, and she obediently serves the people with the real power.

BUT i sure hope they throw her in the pen.

 

[moreluck]

 

[The Other Side]

Blah blah blah morelock...

Sorry folks, but the numbers just dont add up for a republican victory this year, or the next, or the next...

Quote:
""The Republicans’ biggest demographic hurdle is a huge reliance on white voters as their share of the electorate shrinks. In 2012, 74% of all voters were white, down from 89% in 1976. The new report, which relies heavily on Census data to determine turnout figures, calculates that this figure will drop by another two percentage points in 2016. And it projects that the percentage of white working class voters—who are particularly supportive of the GOP—is falling even faster.""

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/...uld-win-the-white-house-again-in-2016-report/

Like I have said over and over, if you think WHITE is going to win the White House, think again, you cant escape the math.

TOS.

 

[newfie]

Blah blah blah morelock...

Sorry folks, but the numbers just dont add up for a republican victory this year, or the next, or the next...


TOS.

while I value your prognastications , they have these new fangled things called elections that will better decide that result.