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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 580909" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Well if I surprise you, that's a good thing. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /> Oh I know we have very recent events worth much time in themselves but it's easy to see these as nothing more than a one off event. You know, we just spent the last eight years electing the wrong cowboy but get in the other guy and all is well again. But what if one was willing to step back, shed the political "cult of personality" loyality thing and just be an American and look at things with honest eyes as much as you can. If one does this and then if one observes a pattern over time that then suggests our cowboy wasn't a one off but was a business as ususal and then the new guy is just a continuation!</p><p> </p><p>Kinda changes things don't it?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I agree about the foreign and alternative press as the MSM of America has been compromised in that they tow the gov't line in order to maintain access. Adam Curtis for the BBC a couple of years ago did a 3 part investigation that initially was going to be about the so-called conservative movement in America and the comparisons of the factions of the neoconservatives on one side and the individualist libertarians on the other. But as Curtis explored the subject, especially the neoconservatives he realized that they (neocons) had a more comparative history/MO with radical fundamentalism and dropped the lowly libertarians altogether. Curtis then went on to give an excellent look at both the groups and their history from NeoCons roots in Leo Strauss to Al Qaeda's roots from the Muslim Brotherhood. Just from it's historical POV of both sides, Curtis' "The Power of Nightmares" is well worth the viewing. It is available on Google video in 3 parts.</p><p> </p><p>What or where is the truth? Good question and sometimes one not easily answered. At moments, truth is like a mirage in that you aren't sure as to what you eyes are seeing. You have to keep looking and travel down the road to actually arrive at the truth and even then it can still be murkey. Multiple sources are a good thing but I also think time and patterns of operation can also prove most effective in painting a true picture. Question is, are we willing to look and ask those question which really are most uncomfortable to ask?</p><p> </p><p>Speaking of alternative press and alternative views, not about Hiroshima but you might find this alternative pres piece interesting none the less.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/09/sheik-down" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">The Sheik Down</span></a></p><p> </p><p>It raises the "uncomfortable" spector of what modern American warfare is really about and the reality of how we are so-called winning the war. I always found it funny how folks will condemn gov't at home for wealth redistribution and yet in their own innocent way, defend the very same thing abroad all because it's wrapped in the flag and carried forward by America's greatest icon, the American soldier.</p><p> </p><p>Wealth redistribution and misallocation of resources by force (taxes and debt creation) is still wrong even if you hoodwink Superman into doing your dirty work!</p><p> </p><p>c ya!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 580909, member: 2189"] Well if I surprise you, that's a good thing. :wink2: Oh I know we have very recent events worth much time in themselves but it's easy to see these as nothing more than a one off event. You know, we just spent the last eight years electing the wrong cowboy but get in the other guy and all is well again. But what if one was willing to step back, shed the political "cult of personality" loyality thing and just be an American and look at things with honest eyes as much as you can. If one does this and then if one observes a pattern over time that then suggests our cowboy wasn't a one off but was a business as ususal and then the new guy is just a continuation! Kinda changes things don't it? I agree about the foreign and alternative press as the MSM of America has been compromised in that they tow the gov't line in order to maintain access. Adam Curtis for the BBC a couple of years ago did a 3 part investigation that initially was going to be about the so-called conservative movement in America and the comparisons of the factions of the neoconservatives on one side and the individualist libertarians on the other. But as Curtis explored the subject, especially the neoconservatives he realized that they (neocons) had a more comparative history/MO with radical fundamentalism and dropped the lowly libertarians altogether. Curtis then went on to give an excellent look at both the groups and their history from NeoCons roots in Leo Strauss to Al Qaeda's roots from the Muslim Brotherhood. Just from it's historical POV of both sides, Curtis' "The Power of Nightmares" is well worth the viewing. It is available on Google video in 3 parts. What or where is the truth? Good question and sometimes one not easily answered. At moments, truth is like a mirage in that you aren't sure as to what you eyes are seeing. You have to keep looking and travel down the road to actually arrive at the truth and even then it can still be murkey. Multiple sources are a good thing but I also think time and patterns of operation can also prove most effective in painting a true picture. Question is, are we willing to look and ask those question which really are most uncomfortable to ask? Speaking of alternative press and alternative views, not about Hiroshima but you might find this alternative pres piece interesting none the less. [URL="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/09/sheik-down"][COLOR=red]The Sheik Down[/COLOR][/URL] It raises the "uncomfortable" spector of what modern American warfare is really about and the reality of how we are so-called winning the war. I always found it funny how folks will condemn gov't at home for wealth redistribution and yet in their own innocent way, defend the very same thing abroad all because it's wrapped in the flag and carried forward by America's greatest icon, the American soldier. Wealth redistribution and misallocation of resources by force (taxes and debt creation) is still wrong even if you hoodwink Superman into doing your dirty work! c ya! :wink2: [/QUOTE]
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