Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by jerseyupser, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. jerseyupser

    jerseyupser Member

    Corporate America is slowly but surely destroying all of our holidays. Atleast in my opinion. Walmart may be the leader.
  2. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    It's the idiots that go shopping at 7pm on Thanksgiving
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  3. jerseyupser

    jerseyupser Member

    Yes your right and those people are morally wrong for doing that. Hang out with your family and relax. We don't have many holidays to do so. And seems like they are talking more and more from us and other corporate employees.
  4. 9.5er

    9.5er Well-Known Member

    I've always thought UPS was the leader in screwing perfectly good days up.
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  5. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Winner Winner! Chicken dinner.

    I say that to everyone that complains. For YEARS morons have been leaving thanksgiving dinner at 5pm to go wait in line for "doorbuster deals" at midnight to get a $.13 dvd player or $300 75" T.V. It was only a matter of time until retailers responded the way that they are now. Whereas I'd be VERY :censored2: if I worked at Walmart and had to work Thanksgiving day, but you can't place the blame on the company in ths case. Blame all the losers who made it a fiscally viable option to be open on the holiday.

    Soon enough atheists will complain that everything should be open on Christmas because it's not fair otherwise. Just wait.
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  6. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Would you pay a dime to see this?

    OP - are you local 177? If so, are you working Black Friday?
  7. Pooter

    Pooter Active Member

    My driver is going to hate me because I'm doing all my shopping online :D

    I pay for shipping! Not lugging that :censored2: to my car >:( Jk
  8. Operational needs

    Operational needs Well-Known Member

    The only thing I would stand in line for at midnight on Thanksgiving would be a life-saving, limited supply medication for my family. There is NOTHING I need that would compel me to be in that madness. My two girls went to our local mall one year and said it was crazy, but fun. I'll pass.
  9. jerseyupser

    jerseyupser Member

    I am 177 and yes I am working.
  10. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Would you pay a dime to see this?

    Then you sir are just as guilty as corporate America is of destroying our holidays by helping to perpetuate the madness.

    177 and I think 804 are the only two locals left in the entire country where the company cannot force you to work on Black Friday.

    IMHO, if you are 177/804 and you are working Black Friday it's a slap in the face to your brother and sister Teamsters everywhere else in the country that don't have a choice.
  11. bluebiker

    bluebiker Member

    I'm in 177, I don't see anywhere in the contract where it's optional not to work. I think if they don't get enough "volunteers" they could force from the bottom up.

    It's also triple time, (holiday pay + double time for hours worked), kind of hard to pass up. Drivers will make approximately $100 an hour. It's the day AFTER Thanksgiving, you can still spend the day with your family.

    I was surprised we got the day off when I started. We only get 6 Holidays in 177, there has been work for drivers for years, all the casuals would have to work (in feeders), then a lot of senior drivers were coming in for the trip time.
  12. jaker

    jaker trolling

    Greedy people are killing the holidays not a store , you can't blame a store or UPS for responding to what the costumer wants

    Look at all the greedy workers we have at ups , if we stood up as a group and all called out friday then they would think different about it but it won't happen money is a very powerful thing and greed is even bigger
  13. UPSwife0174

    UPSwife0174 Member

    I purposely did not shop at all Black Friday last year because I find the new trend of opening earlier and earlier to be ridiculous and somewhat disgusting. Getting up at 4 a.m. one day a year was a silly, if insane (but fun!) thing to do with my girlfriends but the whole greediness of people (retailers and consumers) has pretty much ruined it. I find it absurd that stores now feel the need to be open all day Thanksgiving, and every single employee is pretty much forced to work. Enough is enough. :bored2:
  14. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Would you pay a dime to see this?

    It's recognized as a company holiday. If they don't get enough volunteers they're screwed plain and simple. It happened a number of years ago in a 177 building and they were calling supervisors in from the Catskills building in NY.
  15. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    So I'm supposed to turn down double time plus holiday pay because I'm in 804? Sorry, I pay my dues the same as you...and I "choose" not to turn down a $400 day. If my Teamster brothers and sisters can't understand that...perhaps they'd care to pay my bills for the month?
  16. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Would you pay a dime to see this?

    Again, just my opinion. You do what you want. But save the "pay my bills" nonsense.

    You seem to forget who had YOUR back when that lunatic that you elected decided to go wildcat back in February and almost cost you your jobs. It certainly wasn't the company standing by your side.
  17. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    There are 13 buildings in 804...the wildcat didn't happen in my buiding and that lunatic wasn't my BA.
  18. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Would you pay a dime to see this?

    The point stands. A little solidarity goes a long way. But it's immediately thrown to the wind when Big Brown waves a little green in your face.
  19. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    And if "ifs" and "buts" were candies and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Christmas. I'm a PTer...solidarity doesn't pay my rent.
  20. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    In the 177, you do not have to work black Friday