How Does Teamster Support of Illegal Aliens Help Americans?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Yozh69, Jul 25, 2015.

  1. Yozh69

    Yozh69 Member

    There is no hidden agenda to this post. I sincerely want to know how the Teamsters plan supporting massive legalization of illegal immigrants helps Americans.
     
  2. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    It means the democrats have millions of new voters to vote them in and protect unions.
     
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  3. Yozh69

    Yozh69 Member

    LOL! Thanks. I was hoping to get a more "party line" response. I mean I see from this site that there *are* a lot of folks who do support the Teamsters. I'm personally convinced illegal immigration hurts middleclass America. I was hoping to hear from folks who may be able to convince me otherwise.
     
  4. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Pretty much everybody on here is a teamster. You're going to see a lot of support for them.
    I don't think you're going to hear much that opposes your viewpoint. There seems to be a disconnect from between Teamster leadership and your average Teamster.
     
  5. Yozh69

    Yozh69 Member

    Seems to be typical for every union. The rank and file feels one way and the leadership does another. Perhaps there is no answer.
     
  6. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    I think it's that way with any large organization
     
  7. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    What a loaded question.
    I agree, but supporting immigration reform and a path to citizenship for undocumented workers is not the same as supporting illegal immigration, quite the opposite actually.
     
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  8. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Calling them undocumented workers is a nice was of saying they are illegal immigrants. It's like clean coal. It's a load of crap, but it sounds nicer when you're asking someone how they feel about it.
     
  9. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    I don't care what you call them. I don't believe a human being can be illegal, so I think undocumented is a better descriptor. I have no problem with you calling them whatever you like though.
     
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  10. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Because they've protected union jobs so well that the only union jobs left are the ones that couldn't be moved to China or Mexico.
     
  11. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    What world do you live on?

    Bizarro World?
     
  12. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Illegal entry into the United States is a misdemeanor.
     
  13. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    How about a criminal?

    Can a human being be a criminal?

    How about calling them CRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS?
     
  14. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    What an eloquent, well thought out response....
    I live in the same world as you. Do you have a point?
     
  15. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Right.

    Misdemeanor is a crime.
     
  16. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Your way of thinking is bat sheet crazy if you ask me.
     
  17. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    It would certainly be a step closer to accurate.
    My question to that though is would you refer to every citizen in this country who ever committed a crime in their life as a criminal citizen?
    Sounds kind of silly doesn't it?
     
  18. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    As long they come here to work, bring them on. Start a guest worker program to get them documented and paying into the system and then get them into the union. After 5 years of steady documented employment let them apply for citizenship. I would support making citizenship contingent upon being a union member in good standing.
     
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  19. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Only the ones that haven't been PUNISHED for their crimes yet.
     
  20. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    That's an odd way to look at things....
    You can't be punished until you've been tried and convicted. Last time I checked innocent until proven guilty was a cornerstone of our legal system. Under your reasoning, people who have merely been accused are already criminals.