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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barnyard" data-source="post: 3269118" data-attributes="member: 13921">I grew up in Racine, Wi. Had a paper route for 3 years. I remember seeing the neighborhood UPS guy out after 9p most peaks in the late 70s and early 80s.20 years ago, I was a helper for a driver with a bricked out p500. There was no jump seat, I said something to the driver supe, he said, "How bad do you want to work?" We went back to 2 businesses at least 3 times because their stuff was loaded so poorly.Guy that lived across the street from me said that he used to work till 10:30p back when he 1st started. That was with a 7:45 start time.The DOT hours of service has helped make peak at UPS a little more tolerable.</blockquote>