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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 93736" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Mac</p><p> </p><p>That is one of the reasons why that decision should never be allowed to be made at just the delivery or center manager level. There is too much internal crap that gets in the way.</p><p> </p><p>I would love to see a panel that would hear cases of chargeable accidents as to whether they were avoidable or not. That way drivers would have a way to appeal the local decision based on fact and not if the driver is in favor, or the manager feels that charging each driver will earn a faster track to the top. </p><p> </p><p>We had one here that lost his safe driving years because he broke a mirror on a branch that was hanging in the roadway, while trying to avoid a head on with a school bus. Even the bus driver admitted it was his fault. And as stated, the only damage was a broken mirror. But because of no appeal process, the avoidable accident charge stuck.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe that if the teamsters really cared, they could work this into the contract. A panel of even numbers of UPS hourly and the business agent and a management led by the district safety manager, and an independent third party. And no one knows what the total votes were, just avoidable or not. That way, any pressure on either party would be null.</p><p> </p><p>I really believe that this would work if implemented properly. But if a sham, well, drivers can smell one a mile away.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 93736, member: 484"] Mac That is one of the reasons why that decision should never be allowed to be made at just the delivery or center manager level. There is too much internal crap that gets in the way. I would love to see a panel that would hear cases of chargeable accidents as to whether they were avoidable or not. That way drivers would have a way to appeal the local decision based on fact and not if the driver is in favor, or the manager feels that charging each driver will earn a faster track to the top. We had one here that lost his safe driving years because he broke a mirror on a branch that was hanging in the roadway, while trying to avoid a head on with a school bus. Even the bus driver admitted it was his fault. And as stated, the only damage was a broken mirror. But because of no appeal process, the avoidable accident charge stuck. Maybe that if the teamsters really cared, they could work this into the contract. A panel of even numbers of UPS hourly and the business agent and a management led by the district safety manager, and an independent third party. And no one knows what the total votes were, just avoidable or not. That way, any pressure on either party would be null. I really believe that this would work if implemented properly. But if a sham, well, drivers can smell one a mile away. d [/QUOTE]
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