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<blockquote data-quote="Iwannagoatee" data-source="post: 282107" data-attributes="member: 13378"><p>I've been with TSG for 10 years June and agree that things are def. not going in a direction that is good for TSGers. </p><p>Things that I agree with from previous posts...</p><p>1) Stinks that we have no forward path besides management. I've had management experience at previous jobs and enjoyed it, but I have no interest in being a pre-load sup or HR or IE. I am a geek through and through and think there should be some path for us.</p><p>2) Layoffs, we've not had any actual layoffs locally... yet. We were told to get rid of 3 people and we had one get "fired", one take a management position and 1 that took a lateral move into IE. Nice of them to let us all keep our jobs (minus the fired person, but that wasn't due to the layoffs)., but they say we are still a little fat. We'll see. </p><p>3) Numbers game... Wow, is it bad... the latest is the planned/completed day B.S. Where is the incentive to get work done as efficiently as you can if you get penalized for going into the next days "planned" work. Our function is to support people, not search after some arbitrary numbers that seem to change weekly and get more restrictive every time. </p><p>4) FastGeorge... I assume you guys already do this, but if the staffing is based on tivoli numbers of PC's then the only thing to do is have every PC possible on the network. All spares, anything that is growing old... as long as it can get all the updates, leave it on the network. (Hidden, of course, during assessment time.)</p><p>5) Money: I have been searching for other employment for quite a while... more passively than actively until the layoffs started, but what it made me realize is that we, as a group, know nothing! I agree that we have to self-develop if we want to have ANY chance out there. Just look at the want adds, I see lots of jobs where I am, doing what we do... only it is at a 20K cut in pay. It's not until you have real certs, and/or other experiences that you can get a job outside of UPS paying what we make. The greatest thing that UPS has for us is the free $5250 for certs/education. USE IT EVERY YEAR!!!</p><p>Management thoughts:</p><p>I was talking to my manager and he explained a few things that made me understand a little bit better...</p><p>1) The "bigwigs" get calls weekly/daily from outsourcing companies that want to take our jobs. They say they can out-troubleshoot, out certify, out everything our in-house Technology group does, but at a cost less than what they pay us. So, how does TSG respond? By trying to get data showing what we do... in detail. That is the reason for PMT, and for HDFS. Now, the planning, the completed/actual, whatever the next new data set is... Most of those don't make any sense... Just get the data you need to show that, yes... we do a job, and we do it efficiently and well. After that, leave TSG to do what TSG does best.</p><p>2) That also is the reason push for the A+ and the Net+. All the company's that are knocking on the door are saying that they have this percentage of A+ and this percentage of Net+ etc. etc. So Management responded by saying that we can get those certs, another way to head off the competition.</p><p></p><p>Rumor:</p><p>Has anyone heard of a rumor about the TSG function being switched to SCS? I heard that floating around about 6 months ago and haven't heard anything since...</p><p></p><p>And final thought... Why can't technicians have goatees!?!?!? Drivers are drivers. Let TSG have it's own culture and look.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iwannagoatee, post: 282107, member: 13378"] I've been with TSG for 10 years June and agree that things are def. not going in a direction that is good for TSGers. Things that I agree with from previous posts... 1) Stinks that we have no forward path besides management. I've had management experience at previous jobs and enjoyed it, but I have no interest in being a pre-load sup or HR or IE. I am a geek through and through and think there should be some path for us. 2) Layoffs, we've not had any actual layoffs locally... yet. We were told to get rid of 3 people and we had one get "fired", one take a management position and 1 that took a lateral move into IE. Nice of them to let us all keep our jobs (minus the fired person, but that wasn't due to the layoffs)., but they say we are still a little fat. We'll see. 3) Numbers game... Wow, is it bad... the latest is the planned/completed day B.S. Where is the incentive to get work done as efficiently as you can if you get penalized for going into the next days "planned" work. Our function is to support people, not search after some arbitrary numbers that seem to change weekly and get more restrictive every time. 4) FastGeorge... I assume you guys already do this, but if the staffing is based on tivoli numbers of PC's then the only thing to do is have every PC possible on the network. All spares, anything that is growing old... as long as it can get all the updates, leave it on the network. (Hidden, of course, during assessment time.) 5) Money: I have been searching for other employment for quite a while... more passively than actively until the layoffs started, but what it made me realize is that we, as a group, know nothing! I agree that we have to self-develop if we want to have ANY chance out there. Just look at the want adds, I see lots of jobs where I am, doing what we do... only it is at a 20K cut in pay. It's not until you have real certs, and/or other experiences that you can get a job outside of UPS paying what we make. The greatest thing that UPS has for us is the free $5250 for certs/education. USE IT EVERY YEAR!!! Management thoughts: I was talking to my manager and he explained a few things that made me understand a little bit better... 1) The "bigwigs" get calls weekly/daily from outsourcing companies that want to take our jobs. They say they can out-troubleshoot, out certify, out everything our in-house Technology group does, but at a cost less than what they pay us. So, how does TSG respond? By trying to get data showing what we do... in detail. That is the reason for PMT, and for HDFS. Now, the planning, the completed/actual, whatever the next new data set is... Most of those don't make any sense... Just get the data you need to show that, yes... we do a job, and we do it efficiently and well. After that, leave TSG to do what TSG does best. 2) That also is the reason push for the A+ and the Net+. All the company's that are knocking on the door are saying that they have this percentage of A+ and this percentage of Net+ etc. etc. So Management responded by saying that we can get those certs, another way to head off the competition. Rumor: Has anyone heard of a rumor about the TSG function being switched to SCS? I heard that floating around about 6 months ago and haven't heard anything since... And final thought... Why can't technicians have goatees!?!?!? Drivers are drivers. Let TSG have it's own culture and look. [/QUOTE]
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