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<blockquote data-quote="Ricochet1a" data-source="post: 1163102" data-attributes="member: 22880"><p>This is the one thing that will NEVER happen to the Express pilots (they're smart, the Couriers haven't caught on to the trick).</p><p></p><p>Fred would love nothing more than to hire pilots out of the regional airlines and pay them $60,000 to fly his jets (they could pull it off). The reason it doesn't happen is the union and what is known as 'type certification'.</p><p></p><p>Fedex is one of the last utilizers of the MD10/11 aircraft (they share a common type certification for pilots). You cannot just grab a pilot that is trained in a CRJ or 757 and have them operate a MD10 without being type certified first. This take a bit of time and a bit of money. <em>Fred is going to a fleet of 777, 767, 757 which are in common service with other airlines - the pilots are aware of the implications of that... </em></p><p></p><p>Next, if Express did try to pull something like this off (or even hinted at it), the pilots would shut down Express in a heartbeat. They make roughly $150,000 a year to start and top out for a wide body captain at roughly $230,000 a year - all due to being unionized and not being easily replaceable by Fred. They put in about 20 flight hours a week (what they get paid for), and put in another 10-15 hours a week in pre/post flight administration and recurrent training. They basically get paid when the red beacon light is operating on the aircraft and stop getting paid when it goes out. They also get per diem and other allowances which brings up their effective compensation to the levels mentioned above. </p><p></p><p>Along with UPS and Southwest, FedEx pilots are the highest paid US commercial pilots. The guy or gal sitting in the right hand seat of a regional jet that just got hired is making about $20,000 a year... The regional pilots put up with the low pay in the hopes of one day making it into the big leagues and being able to make a living (becoming more and more of a pipe dream for them). </p><p></p><p>As it stands right now with the Couriers not being organized, Fred can replace them as quick as they quit. If they were organized and decided to strike, he couldn't replace them fast enough and getting Ground drivers to come over to move Express freight to break a strike would create headaches in terms of getting them through the screening process and then having the Ground contractors replace them (then the nasty issue of what to do with the strike breakers after they presumably break the strike - are they sent back down to the minor leagues or are they offered permanent positions...). </p><p></p><p>Until and unless the Couriers of Express learn to play hardball with Fred, they'll be treated like that regional pilot flying in the right hand seat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ricochet1a, post: 1163102, member: 22880"] This is the one thing that will NEVER happen to the Express pilots (they're smart, the Couriers haven't caught on to the trick). Fred would love nothing more than to hire pilots out of the regional airlines and pay them $60,000 to fly his jets (they could pull it off). The reason it doesn't happen is the union and what is known as 'type certification'. Fedex is one of the last utilizers of the MD10/11 aircraft (they share a common type certification for pilots). You cannot just grab a pilot that is trained in a CRJ or 757 and have them operate a MD10 without being type certified first. This take a bit of time and a bit of money. [I]Fred is going to a fleet of 777, 767, 757 which are in common service with other airlines - the pilots are aware of the implications of that... [/I] Next, if Express did try to pull something like this off (or even hinted at it), the pilots would shut down Express in a heartbeat. They make roughly $150,000 a year to start and top out for a wide body captain at roughly $230,000 a year - all due to being unionized and not being easily replaceable by Fred. They put in about 20 flight hours a week (what they get paid for), and put in another 10-15 hours a week in pre/post flight administration and recurrent training. They basically get paid when the red beacon light is operating on the aircraft and stop getting paid when it goes out. They also get per diem and other allowances which brings up their effective compensation to the levels mentioned above. Along with UPS and Southwest, FedEx pilots are the highest paid US commercial pilots. The guy or gal sitting in the right hand seat of a regional jet that just got hired is making about $20,000 a year... The regional pilots put up with the low pay in the hopes of one day making it into the big leagues and being able to make a living (becoming more and more of a pipe dream for them). As it stands right now with the Couriers not being organized, Fred can replace them as quick as they quit. If they were organized and decided to strike, he couldn't replace them fast enough and getting Ground drivers to come over to move Express freight to break a strike would create headaches in terms of getting them through the screening process and then having the Ground contractors replace them (then the nasty issue of what to do with the strike breakers after they presumably break the strike - are they sent back down to the minor leagues or are they offered permanent positions...). Until and unless the Couriers of Express learn to play hardball with Fred, they'll be treated like that regional pilot flying in the right hand seat. [/QUOTE]
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