If I am punched out?????

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by TJC, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. TJC

    TJC New Member

    Got a question for I hope some union savy people. If I am punched out and my supervisor says hey I need you to take missloads I am off the clock do I have to take them? I am not on there time anymore.
     
  2. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    They can tell you to clock back in. You have to work as instructed. If you want to go home and there is a qualified employee with less seniority than you who is available to do the work, you should have the right to bump the unwanted work down to that person.
     
  3. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    File assault charges.
     
  4. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Maybe you should wait for an answer from TOS....the self-proclaimed best steward in the world and the only champion of all Teamsters ever to come along!! (you're suppose to bow now)
     
  5. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I have always disagreed with this argument. If you are clocked out, they can't order you to do anything. If you are ON the clock, then I agree with working as directed. Not off the clock.
     
  6. QKRSTKR

    QKRSTKR Active Member

    Right, but we are contracted to do their work. If there is no one else available, don't you want a teamster doing it instead of management? If they are only one available they should do it.
     
  7. ocstreetracer

    ocstreetracer New Member

    This is what i do

    At my ups facility if management ask me to do something after I'm clocked out then I tell them to F-Off and keep walking to my car. You should do the same. Know your rights!
     
  8. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Re: This is what i do

    Rights are what you`ll be doing. Rights on down to unemployment.
     
  9. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    I would say ok. But I first need to punch back in.

    DON'T DO ANY WORK OFF THE CLOCK no matter how trivial, if you got hurt for some reason you would be SOL.

    CYA
     
  10. talkwith

    talkwith New Member

    We've run into this several times. Our union rep told us that if we are punched out we cannot be disciplined for failure to follow instructions. It is the same as being asked to start earlier than the scheduled start time. You do not have too start early. I've refused too clock back in several times. When pushed, I invoked the union and said that when I was punched out I did not work for UPS and therefore could not be instructed. It is just like refusing or accepting extra work. They can offer it but they can't order you to do it.
     
  11. TJC

    TJC New Member

    Good points from both sides of it. I know if I ask my weak reps they will say the company is always right like they always do.
     
  12. bigblu 2 you

    bigblu 2 you Active Member

    when they ask here is what you do.tell them you have completed your shift{if so}and you would be glad to clock in and finish any work as directed at time and one half pay rate.only twice in my career have they needed my services enough to accept this offer.
     
  13. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    It depends on if you want the work. If you want the work, get back on the clock and take it. If not, simply tell them no thanks, I am off the clock and walk out the door. As some of the others have stated, you cannot be instructed to do work once off the clock, unless you were told not to clock out and did it anyway. Then you will be in big trouble.
     
  14. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    are yall retarded? maybe they should call you at 3 am to come work...why do you punch in if you are always to do as instructed???
     
  15. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Can someone translate ????
     
  16. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    You put that out there and ask if we are retarded? What the heck did you say?
     
  17. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    There isnt enough information in this post to determine the circumstances involved.

    peace.
     
  18. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    if you are always to do what they say and work off the clock...why do you clock in???? why dont they call you in to work preload???huh??? translation to english sorry
     
  19. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    I will have to find it, sorry for not having it on hand, but somewere in our contract there is something in the lines of when a driver has returned to building they cant forces him back out. My book is worn and falling apart so I have to google it and c if I can find it.

    I know there are some well versed stewards on here that might know of this.

    I have a hard time saying no. My mind gets ticked but my mouth says, yes sir. I make sure they have my extra time entered and mumble that it will mess up my #'s and I know u like only good #'s.

    I'm not perm full time either so I guess get the hours while they r there to take cause summer's all but gone anyway.
     
  20. gostillerz

    gostillerz Member

    If you're punched out, they can't force you to work. Someone else brought up "work as directed". That only applies when you are on the clock. That's what caharrell5 was eluding to.

    My advice. If it's something quick like helping to bulk out a car or helping another guy with something heavy, just punch back in and help out. If it's going to make you late with another job/school tell them why. There are more important battles.