Lol at your "Not up for a pissing match" followed by insults.
I'm out.
And I certainly don't care if the company is around in another 100 years, 10 ought to be more than enough.
To all contributors to this thread,
I have enjoyed the spirited discussion about this serious failure on the parts of management and hourly employees alike.
I believe any management person who "directs" an employee to falsify delivery records should be fired.
I also believe that anyone who intentionally falisifys delivery records should be fired.
If it is done as directed by a management person then the management person and the hourly person should be fired.
Working as directed is not an excuse to commit what amounts to no less than a crime.
I don't mean to be harsh and I hope some of you don't get mad at me.
I care enough to tell you the truth as I see it in hopes of encouraging some change in thought and action.
Sincerely,
I
Hoaxster,It would seem that any hourly employee who is directed by management to sheet a package a certain way and they refuse are totally lacking in INTEGRITY.
Just my opinion and I hope you don't get mad at me but ... that's what the contract says and anyone not going by the terms and conditions of the contract are totally without INTEGRITY.
Hoaxster,
I definitely am not mad at you. I hope no one else is.
Can you please provide the article and section of the contract that contain the terms and conditions your have mentioned in your post?
Thank You.
Sincerely,
I
Hoaxster,Can you provide the article and section where it is not?
Try asking one of the stewards whether an Union hourly is bound by the contract to "work as directed".
Hoax
You are bound to work as instructed unless the instructions are unsafe. The authors of the contract did not have any idea that management would ask hourly to do something that is improper, much less wrong and dishonest.
For all the years I was at UPS and refused to sheet packages other than what they actually were, and all the times I was instructed to put only 10/100's preload but instead punched out when I actually left, there were no repercussions. I refused to follow dishonest direction. I did not refuse to do my job, I refused to be dishonest.
I find it interesting that along all walks of management, this is not only accepted behavior, but whole heartedly encouraged at all levels. This aint your fathers UPS......
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Hoaxster,
I definitely am not mad at you. I hope no one else is.
Can you please provide the article and section of the contract that contain the terms and conditions your have mentioned in your post?
Thank You.
Sincerely,
I
You want me to ask one of the stewards whether a Union Hourly is contractually bound by to do whatever a management person directs?
Yup, that is exactly what he is saying
According to you a Union hourly is contractually bound to:
violate safety training at the direction of management
Happens. But it is more at the suggestion, with a good deal of support and back slapping
falsify delivery records at the direction of management
That is exactly what he is saying
driver release next day air packages prior to delivery at the direction of management
That too. Of course, we actually never said to do it, but you know what we meant.......
mistreat customers packages at the direction of management
Well I have never heard of a manager telling an employee to mistreat a package.....
misreport a workplace injury at the direction of management
Oh yeah, not actually to misreport, but not to report it at all. After all, you are a UPS driver. Shake it off, stretch, take a couple of aspirin, and keep on going.
lie at the direction of management
What, you think management would ask us to lie? What do you think we are doing to the customer who's package we ECONed because we were out of hours, and they did not want to cut a route in today?
etc. etc.
Is this what you want me to ask one of the stewards?
Question is, do you really want to know what the stewards will tell you?
Integrity
Now I think you are getting the big picture at what life is like at UPS. Welcome to the "real world". At least Hoax has the integrity to post that much of management lacks integrity, and will misuse its position with the hourly to have them do it as well. But of course we already knew that.
Sorry to be the bearer of such news.
One last thought for the poster that started this thread. AS you can see, the very stockholders/employee owners at UPS that are the ones directing its workforce to lie to, and steal from the customer.
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For anyone told or instructed to sheet packages as emergency conditions and they don't believe it's the honest thing to do. Work as instructed and grieve it.