If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took it
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MAKAVELI
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Why don't you go back to the hole you crawled out of?Why don't you go cry back in the Fedex forum where you belong.
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Purple Café?...Why don't you go cry back in the Fedex forum where you belong.
quamba 638
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Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
How do you see it?
Life would be totally better if everyone in the world took instead of gave?
1) What is your ideal job?
2) Do you think you would make more money at UPS part-time if it weren't union? Pension, insurance, pay?
3) What would the world be like if everyone took and nobody gave?
4) Is this you?
How do you see it?
Life would be totally better if everyone in the world took instead of gave?
1) What is your ideal job?
2) Do you think you would make more money at UPS part-time if it weren't union? Pension, insurance, pay?
3) What would the world be like if everyone took and nobody gave?
4) Is this you?
tiredofhelping
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I just wanted to wish you luck in going full time. Did you get a driving job or a 22.3 job?
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
OK, here goes. Here's a partial list of what we have "gained" at FedEx over the last decade or two, thanks to having an non-union workplace courtesy of Fred S's RLA. There are also some interesting work rules and wage scams.
1. Loss of Pension Plan. Our traditional retirement plan went away for good in 2008, replaced with a puny annuity that isn't a pension at all.
2. Loss of Profit-Sharing. Gone. Poof!!
3. High Medical and Dental premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. I have 2 kids and a wife and it costs me around $400 per month just for payroll deductions. I have the "Premium" Plan. Oh, and they just cut the payout for restorative dental work to 50% from 80%. Sweet.
4. An infinite amount of time to reach top wage. I know co-workers who have been at FedEx as long as 22 years and still haven't reached top scale. Starting pay varies due to market location (more on that next), but averages around $15 -16 per hour.
5. Market Levels. At FedEx, every location is assigned a market level. For example, if you live in or around a high-cost area like SF or NYC, you make more per hour. If you live in the suburbs or a rural area, pay can drop significantly. No Master Agreement means scams like this one.
6. No legitimate grievance procedure. Notice I said "legitimate". FedEx has an Open Door Policy and GFT (Guaranteed Fair Treatment), both programs that are run exclusively by management. What does that tell you?
7. Part-time employment. The vast majority of job openings at FedEx are now PT, and hours cuts are the name of the game for those who remain full-time.
8. Raises? Given at the whim of management. We have gone for periods of 4-5 years at a time with zero raises. Our current "raise" has been deferred to October, when it will be decided if we even get one. If we do, it won't be very much, and they'll simply raise the costs of insurance or deductibles to make it back. FedEx is self-insured.
And there's a lot more. ORLY sounds like he needs a serious reality check. Be VERY glad you have a union. I wish we did.
OK, here goes. Here's a partial list of what we have "gained" at FedEx over the last decade or two, thanks to having an non-union workplace courtesy of Fred S's RLA. There are also some interesting work rules and wage scams.
1. Loss of Pension Plan. Our traditional retirement plan went away for good in 2008, replaced with a puny annuity that isn't a pension at all.
2. Loss of Profit-Sharing. Gone. Poof!!
3. High Medical and Dental premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. I have 2 kids and a wife and it costs me around $400 per month just for payroll deductions. I have the "Premium" Plan. Oh, and they just cut the payout for restorative dental work to 50% from 80%. Sweet.
4. An infinite amount of time to reach top wage. I know co-workers who have been at FedEx as long as 22 years and still haven't reached top scale. Starting pay varies due to market location (more on that next), but averages around $15 -16 per hour.
5. Market Levels. At FedEx, every location is assigned a market level. For example, if you live in or around a high-cost area like SF or NYC, you make more per hour. If you live in the suburbs or a rural area, pay can drop significantly. No Master Agreement means scams like this one.
6. No legitimate grievance procedure. Notice I said "legitimate". FedEx has an Open Door Policy and GFT (Guaranteed Fair Treatment), both programs that are run exclusively by management. What does that tell you?
7. Part-time employment. The vast majority of job openings at FedEx are now PT, and hours cuts are the name of the game for those who remain full-time.
8. Raises? Given at the whim of management. We have gone for periods of 4-5 years at a time with zero raises. Our current "raise" has been deferred to October, when it will be decided if we even get one. If we do, it won't be very much, and they'll simply raise the costs of insurance or deductibles to make it back. FedEx is self-insured.
And there's a lot more. ORLY sounds like he needs a serious reality check. Be VERY glad you have a union. I wish we did.
UPS Preloader
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Thanks, and Sorry.
Thanks, and Sorry.
Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
Thanks bud. Package car for me. I start in less that 12 hours. I was hoping I'd be tired by now but instead I'm all amped up. I'll just take a melatonin pill and I'll be out soon enough...but first, I must beat my kids upon their heads and shoulders because they're up and screeching. (I seriously won't...but I will remind them that it's really easy and fun for me to wake them up in the morning when it's time...whether or not they've slept good or not.)
Thanks bud. Package car for me. I start in less that 12 hours. I was hoping I'd be tired by now but instead I'm all amped up. I'll just take a melatonin pill and I'll be out soon enough...but first, I must beat my kids upon their heads and shoulders because they're up and screeching. (I seriously won't...but I will remind them that it's really easy and fun for me to wake them up in the morning when it's time...whether or not they've slept good or not.)
S
serenity now
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you'll be tired soon enough.........
you'll be tired soon enough.........
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
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Sorry, cinco de mayo and all. Started to lose grip on reality.
Sorry, cinco de mayo and all. Started to lose grip on reality.
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
Great post!
The pay for the work is outrageously low. You all think that the work is handed out equally amoungst us, sure, do you even work for UPS at all? I know for a fact my work is not equal to those around me and many others. I dont feel as if I get a fair shake in things, get single out quite often, no matter if I'm lite or heavy, clean or full, it doesnt matter. For the abuse to my body, mind and paycheck, its a no brainer not to pay dues.
Agreed, I totally rolled my eyes when I was told joining the union was so important. There was four of us in the class, all three started right away filling out the form. I just took it with me. Out of those four, I'm the only one left. Perhaps, paying dues was the start of those other threes downfall here. All three of them were rampant complainers, I bet from being paid so lowly at the time for the amount work. It might be a huge factor to those working part time at many buildings. Low pay, abusive work equals turnover.
As I said before, I make as much as someone within 8 years. I was talking to him today infact, and he was thinking about getting a new job and leaving this one. He's even trained as a driver. Getting paid 250-275 a week would kill it for a lot of people with 8 years in. Perhaps this a reoccuring problem with the turnover rate here at UPS. Perhaps the pay, taxes and then union dues makes people rethink their choice of joining UPS. Its not a bad theory!
Perhaps you really have to love the union and its dues to tolerate UPS. Again, not a bad theory!
MrFedEx, whats your job title, if you could, non of my business, just interested, whats your over income a year, you dont have to answer that one. There are many other ways to secure your future. Gold, IRA, bonds, silver heck I heard nickle is getting quite rare these days as well. Just because your job doesnt offer you a soild retirement plan, theres others options to go to. I believe we all should look after our own retirements, this means spreading out your options, not just one choice. I have many spread out already and looking into metals, yet a little too hot at the moment.
Great post!
The pay for the work is outrageously low. You all think that the work is handed out equally amoungst us, sure, do you even work for UPS at all? I know for a fact my work is not equal to those around me and many others. I dont feel as if I get a fair shake in things, get single out quite often, no matter if I'm lite or heavy, clean or full, it doesnt matter. For the abuse to my body, mind and paycheck, its a no brainer not to pay dues.
Agreed, I totally rolled my eyes when I was told joining the union was so important. There was four of us in the class, all three started right away filling out the form. I just took it with me. Out of those four, I'm the only one left. Perhaps, paying dues was the start of those other threes downfall here. All three of them were rampant complainers, I bet from being paid so lowly at the time for the amount work. It might be a huge factor to those working part time at many buildings. Low pay, abusive work equals turnover.
As I said before, I make as much as someone within 8 years. I was talking to him today infact, and he was thinking about getting a new job and leaving this one. He's even trained as a driver. Getting paid 250-275 a week would kill it for a lot of people with 8 years in. Perhaps this a reoccuring problem with the turnover rate here at UPS. Perhaps the pay, taxes and then union dues makes people rethink their choice of joining UPS. Its not a bad theory!
Perhaps you really have to love the union and its dues to tolerate UPS. Again, not a bad theory!
MrFedEx, whats your job title, if you could, non of my business, just interested, whats your over income a year, you dont have to answer that one. There are many other ways to secure your future. Gold, IRA, bonds, silver heck I heard nickle is getting quite rare these days as well. Just because your job doesnt offer you a soild retirement plan, theres others options to go to. I believe we all should look after our own retirements, this means spreading out your options, not just one choice. I have many spread out already and looking into metals, yet a little too hot at the moment.
Bagels
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Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
<yawn>
Go work the minimum wage job you deserve.
Stop stealing my money!!!!
<yawn>
Go work the minimum wage job you deserve.
Stop stealing my money!!!!
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
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You make things so clear for me and us all, thank you!
You make things so clear for me and us all, thank you!
hypo hanna
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They need look no further the the drivers at FedEx. Not the same but very much a similar job. When I hired on with them about 30 yrs ago, I was promised all sorts of benefits. That FedEx takes care of its people and doesn't need a union to help me look out for my interest. Stupidly I bought into their con. Now I'm in my 50s and they have steadily taken away all of those benefits. Payed 10 dollars less at top out scale. New hires have no chance to top out and a 20 year FedEx driver will be making half what you guys make after 5 years. What's left of my pension will be worth a third less then it should and a whole lot less then a 30 yr ups driver would make. Retiree medical gone. Shift differential pay gone. Cola raises spotty and rarely cover inflation. Insurance cost through the roof. Too late for me but if I could go back in time, I would be wearing brown today instead of blue. You guys have it good and you can thank your union for that. Sure the IBT has its warts but without it you wouldn't have a fraction of the compensation you now enjoy.
They need look no further the the drivers at FedEx. Not the same but very much a similar job. When I hired on with them about 30 yrs ago, I was promised all sorts of benefits. That FedEx takes care of its people and doesn't need a union to help me look out for my interest. Stupidly I bought into their con. Now I'm in my 50s and they have steadily taken away all of those benefits. Payed 10 dollars less at top out scale. New hires have no chance to top out and a 20 year FedEx driver will be making half what you guys make after 5 years. What's left of my pension will be worth a third less then it should and a whole lot less then a 30 yr ups driver would make. Retiree medical gone. Shift differential pay gone. Cola raises spotty and rarely cover inflation. Insurance cost through the roof. Too late for me but if I could go back in time, I would be wearing brown today instead of blue. You guys have it good and you can thank your union for that. Sure the IBT has its warts but without it you wouldn't have a fraction of the compensation you now enjoy.
I Am Jacks Damaged Box
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That's nice dude. But when you misspell the word "dollar" multiple times days prior to the 5th of May, it really suggests otherwise.
Or you have never met an excuse that you didn't like.
That's nice dude. But when you misspell the word "dollar" multiple times days prior to the 5th of May, it really suggests otherwise.
Or you have never met an excuse that you didn't like.
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
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Dollar | Define Dollar at Dictionary.com
Dollar | Define Dollar at Dictionary.com
ORLY!?!
Master Loader
Re: If you ate the candy that you coworker gave to you and figured out that he took i
A buisness can be bad either way, with or without a union. UPS is just as bad with one without one. I love how people believe they have it so bad, its common in all work places it seems. Run across a girl last week who was complaining up a storm over 700 packages. I come to work just to laugh more often then to work nowadays. Seems the population has an entitlement complex.
A buisness can be bad either way, with or without a union. UPS is just as bad with one without one. I love how people believe they have it so bad, its common in all work places it seems. Run across a girl last week who was complaining up a storm over 700 packages. I come to work just to laugh more often then to work nowadays. Seems the population has an entitlement complex.
BrownArmy
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Reading comprehension not your strong suit either, eh?
Reading comprehension not your strong suit either, eh?
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Comic relief, and nothing more.
Comic relief, and nothing more.
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