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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 635393" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>JIMJAMES,</p><p></p><p>again, another "patriot" fan. How exactly was reagan a patriot?</p><p></p><p>He single handedly ruined the domestic auto industry of the time by signing agreements with the japanese to imports MILLIONS of cars putting several domestic auto makers out of business.</p><p></p><p>Do "patriots" harm the very middle class citizens it claims to be protecting?</p><p></p><p>Reagan and his administration were "illegally" selling weapons to foreign terror groups in order to overthrown goverments.</p><p></p><p>Ollie North, a convicted felon spearheaded the operation but was pardoned by G H BUSH. Reagan, your true patriot, had documents distroyed to protect himself and others from criminal prosecution.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجرای مک*فارلین, Spanish: caso Irán-contras) was a political scandal in the United States which came to light in November 1986, during the Reagan administration, in which senior US figures agreed to facilitate the sale of arms to Iran, the subject of an arms embargo, to secure the release of hostages and to fund Nicaraguan contras.</p><p>It began as an operation to improve U.S.-Iranian relations, where Israel would ship weapons to a relatively moderate, politically influential group of Iranians; the U.S. would then resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by the Lebanese Shia Islamist group Hezbollah, who were unknowingly connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. The plan eventually deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.[1][2] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[3] While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[4] no evidence has been found showing that he authorized this plan.[1][2][5]</p><p>After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[6] The investigation was compounded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[7] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."[8]) </p><p></p><p>Reagan was a liar to the american public. He participated in illegal activities but was spared prosecution.</p><p></p><p>Those who are unfamiliar with his actions as president would believe he somehow was a "friend" of the american middle class, but the record proves otherwise.</p><p></p><p>He raised taxes on the middle class 7 times using various methods for doing so. You can thank RONALD REAGAN for the highest FEDERAL GAS TAX in american history.</p><p></p><p>You stated that "he would never sell us out to foriegn interests"</p><p></p><p>Really? What do you call what he did with arms for hostages?</p><p></p><p>When Reagan was elected president in 1980, it took 2 years to get unemployment to 10.7%.</p><p></p><p>FACT:The policies were derided by some as "Trickle-down economics,"[16] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[17] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[17] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[18] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[19] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[20] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[19]</p><p></p><p>If you call this record a patriot, then you must be in love with President Obama.</p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 635393, member: 17969"] JIMJAMES, again, another "patriot" fan. How exactly was reagan a patriot? He single handedly ruined the domestic auto industry of the time by signing agreements with the japanese to imports MILLIONS of cars putting several domestic auto makers out of business. Do "patriots" harm the very middle class citizens it claims to be protecting? Reagan and his administration were "illegally" selling weapons to foreign terror groups in order to overthrown goverments. Ollie North, a convicted felon spearheaded the operation but was pardoned by G H BUSH. Reagan, your true patriot, had documents distroyed to protect himself and others from criminal prosecution. The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجرای مک*فارلین, Spanish: caso Irán-contras) was a political scandal in the United States which came to light in November 1986, during the Reagan administration, in which senior US figures agreed to facilitate the sale of arms to Iran, the subject of an arms embargo, to secure the release of hostages and to fund Nicaraguan contras. It began as an operation to improve U.S.-Iranian relations, where Israel would ship weapons to a relatively moderate, politically influential group of Iranians; the U.S. would then resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by the Lebanese Shia Islamist group Hezbollah, who were unknowingly connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. The plan eventually deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.[1][2] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[3] While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[4] no evidence has been found showing that he authorized this plan.[1][2][5] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[6] The investigation was compounded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[7] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."[8]) Reagan was a liar to the american public. He participated in illegal activities but was spared prosecution. Those who are unfamiliar with his actions as president would believe he somehow was a "friend" of the american middle class, but the record proves otherwise. He raised taxes on the middle class 7 times using various methods for doing so. You can thank RONALD REAGAN for the highest FEDERAL GAS TAX in american history. You stated that "he would never sell us out to foriegn interests" Really? What do you call what he did with arms for hostages? When Reagan was elected president in 1980, it took 2 years to get unemployment to 10.7%. FACT:The policies were derided by some as "Trickle-down economics,"[16] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[17] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[17] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[18] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[19] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[20] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[19] If you call this record a patriot, then you must be in love with President Obama. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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