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If you're fired for Jury Duty paydo you collect Pension after 13-23 years of service.
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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 817241" data-attributes="member: 484"><p><strong>Re: If you're fired for Jury Duty paydo you collect Pension after 13-23 years of serv</strong></p><p></p><p>TOS</p><p> </p><p>I totally understand the angle you are trying to present. But from the information given, that just is not the case here.</p><p> </p><p>Any time an employee does something wrong, there will be consequences. If it is stealing or dishonesty, then termination is the result. From the post, these drivers have been around the block at UPS. They know what is acceptable and what is not. Regardless of the leadership of the group, all knew what they were doing was wrong. All had ample opportunity to say no, but none did. And all the fired employees benefited financially from the dishonest act.</p><p> </p><p>Your contention that the employees did not know what was done behind their backs does not fit the post. And your assumption of there being an entitlement to which they were due is not based on the post either.</p><p> </p><p>And if I remember correctly, the last time I was on jury duty, I had to sign a form that stated so, and that I had to inform the company of what they paid me for the jury duty. So, if they have a signed form, that would be another nail in the pine box.</p><p> </p><p>I have seen several drivers over the year be fired for Jury duty issues. None ever got their jobs back. </p><p> </p><p>One last item</p><p>From a PM, It could very well be that the manager that was at the center of this dishonesty was approached by LP at the beginning of the investigation. Knowing that he would be terminated, he quit instead, before they had completed their investigation. The drivers did not quit, therefor had to be fired after the investigation was completed.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>They were not directed, there was an dishonest offer made. They did not have to accept the dishonest offer. They <strong>CHOSE</strong> to accept the dishonest offer. And they benefited financially as a result of the dishonest offer. When working as directed, the choice is not yours, but the company's. They had the choice, they accepted the dishonest offer. Again, we are not talking rookie employees, but seasoned veterans, so they <strong><u>knew </u></strong>what they were doing was wrong.</p><p> </p><p>Bottom line, you advocate that the drivers had no responsibility or decision making capability in this dishonest action, and from what was posted, I strongly disagree.</p><p> </p><p>Best</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 817241, member: 484"] [b]Re: If you're fired for Jury Duty paydo you collect Pension after 13-23 years of serv[/b] TOS I totally understand the angle you are trying to present. But from the information given, that just is not the case here. Any time an employee does something wrong, there will be consequences. If it is stealing or dishonesty, then termination is the result. From the post, these drivers have been around the block at UPS. They know what is acceptable and what is not. Regardless of the leadership of the group, all knew what they were doing was wrong. All had ample opportunity to say no, but none did. And all the fired employees benefited financially from the dishonest act. Your contention that the employees did not know what was done behind their backs does not fit the post. And your assumption of there being an entitlement to which they were due is not based on the post either. And if I remember correctly, the last time I was on jury duty, I had to sign a form that stated so, and that I had to inform the company of what they paid me for the jury duty. So, if they have a signed form, that would be another nail in the pine box. I have seen several drivers over the year be fired for Jury duty issues. None ever got their jobs back. One last item From a PM, It could very well be that the manager that was at the center of this dishonesty was approached by LP at the beginning of the investigation. Knowing that he would be terminated, he quit instead, before they had completed their investigation. The drivers did not quit, therefor had to be fired after the investigation was completed. They were not directed, there was an dishonest offer made. They did not have to accept the dishonest offer. They [B]CHOSE[/B] to accept the dishonest offer. And they benefited financially as a result of the dishonest offer. When working as directed, the choice is not yours, but the company's. They had the choice, they accepted the dishonest offer. Again, we are not talking rookie employees, but seasoned veterans, so they [B][U]knew [/U][/B]what they were doing was wrong. Bottom line, you advocate that the drivers had no responsibility or decision making capability in this dishonest action, and from what was posted, I strongly disagree. Best d [/QUOTE]
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