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<blockquote data-quote="solitarysiren" data-source="post: 181671" data-attributes="member: 7474"><p>maybe the fact that things have changed over 100 years. I don't mean this as a smart a** remark, I just mean that more has to be taken into account. We're quite a melting pot now.</p><p> </p><p>eh. I have mixed feelings on the subject anyway. I'm a first generation American from immigrant parents. Yeah they were illegal. They never stole. They always worked hard. They were never on welfare. They learned the language and became naturalized citizens (my dad anyway. My mom didn't get the chance).</p><p> </p><p>I know that had they not taken the risk several times (I think my dad was deported three times) I wouldn't have the luxury of a full belly (yeah, sometimes it's Ramen, but at least it's full), clothes, shows, not to mention education. I'm the first in the family to EVER graduate college and go to grad school. I'm very thankful for all this, but I know that it's all been laid at my feet by a method that most people feel so negatively towards.</p><p> </p><p>So that makes my position thus: For those who are in search of a better life, for better opportunities for their children, for those who honestly want to raise themsleves out of deplorable circumstances, take that risk. No one should hold you back from bettering yourself. Yes, this involves learning the language and becoming self sufficient. At least get a residency, if not fully naturalized. I also understand, however, that not everyone takes to language easily, but there at least needs to be an effort.</p><p> </p><p>I don't support people with dishonest intentions coming into this country. One bad apple ruins the whole bunch, right? But immigration is something that most Americans only see one side of, and it's so much more complicated than that.</p><p> </p><p>I've had this conversation with many people and I usually offer this: Go live in a foreign country for a while. Just pick up and go somewhere completely different for you. Try to learn the language and assimilate the best you can with not much more than what you take with you, then tell me what you think. I've done it. I had the advantage of knowing some of the language and having some background knowledge of where I was going, but even in a country where English is becoming ever more common, it was one of the most difficult experiences I've had thus far. I was also fortunate enough to be able to come home and get back to life as usual. It was an eye opening experience, as well as a self-empowering one. It wasn't nearly as dramatic or as risky as what my parents went through, I know that, but it let me understand a bit more what is at stake and why so many people risk their lives crossing borders.</p><p> </p><p>sigh.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for bearing with me, if you've made it this far. I guess I just had to get that out...<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/sad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sad:" title="Sad :sad:" data-shortname=":sad:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="solitarysiren, post: 181671, member: 7474"] maybe the fact that things have changed over 100 years. I don't mean this as a smart a** remark, I just mean that more has to be taken into account. We're quite a melting pot now. eh. I have mixed feelings on the subject anyway. I'm a first generation American from immigrant parents. Yeah they were illegal. They never stole. They always worked hard. They were never on welfare. They learned the language and became naturalized citizens (my dad anyway. My mom didn't get the chance). I know that had they not taken the risk several times (I think my dad was deported three times) I wouldn't have the luxury of a full belly (yeah, sometimes it's Ramen, but at least it's full), clothes, shows, not to mention education. I'm the first in the family to EVER graduate college and go to grad school. I'm very thankful for all this, but I know that it's all been laid at my feet by a method that most people feel so negatively towards. So that makes my position thus: For those who are in search of a better life, for better opportunities for their children, for those who honestly want to raise themsleves out of deplorable circumstances, take that risk. No one should hold you back from bettering yourself. Yes, this involves learning the language and becoming self sufficient. At least get a residency, if not fully naturalized. I also understand, however, that not everyone takes to language easily, but there at least needs to be an effort. I don't support people with dishonest intentions coming into this country. One bad apple ruins the whole bunch, right? But immigration is something that most Americans only see one side of, and it's so much more complicated than that. I've had this conversation with many people and I usually offer this: Go live in a foreign country for a while. Just pick up and go somewhere completely different for you. Try to learn the language and assimilate the best you can with not much more than what you take with you, then tell me what you think. I've done it. I had the advantage of knowing some of the language and having some background knowledge of where I was going, but even in a country where English is becoming ever more common, it was one of the most difficult experiences I've had thus far. I was also fortunate enough to be able to come home and get back to life as usual. It was an eye opening experience, as well as a self-empowering one. It wasn't nearly as dramatic or as risky as what my parents went through, I know that, but it let me understand a bit more what is at stake and why so many people risk their lives crossing borders. sigh. Thanks for bearing with me, if you've made it this far. I guess I just had to get that out...:sad: [/QUOTE]
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