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<blockquote data-quote="barking dog" data-source="post: 206102" data-attributes="member: 10253"><p><strong>Re: Rival union aims to replace Teamsters at UPS</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am still researching old records and newsletters concerning the attorneys travelling and when I find it I'll post it here. In the mean time I have researched old APWA newsletters and found the following:</p><p><strong>Jul 2005</strong> - When "Our experts" get us something that you need to know, we'll get that information to you asap. Question: Who decides what the workers need to know? Also, the voting directors, managers and executive staff are banned from posting on TNET and Browncafe. Another question: Just what are they trying to hide? Why is this new start up organizstion trying to muzzle it's own staff from the get go? This sounds like business as usual with the IBT.</p><p><strong>Feb 2006</strong> - APWA has "emloyeed 8 attorneys" and then Founding Charter members (FCM's) have the power to remove anyone from a stewards position to national officer. Question: Where is the money coming from to pay these 8 attorneys? Then, what is the requirement to be a FCM? All I could find is the payment of $150.00 gets you the FCM position.</p><p><strong>Apr 2006</strong> - newsletter states "our professionals" say they need a massive media campaign between the card signing and vote. Question: Who is funding this massive national media campaign? Where is the money coming from?</p><p><strong>Aug 2006</strong> - Hired "off duty" policemen to guard their meetings. Question: Once again, where is the money coming from?</p><p><strong>Oct 2006</strong> - The payment of $150.00 now would waive the payment of initiation fees after the vote. Initiation fees after the vote would be $225.00. Question: How will they even start to collect it or collect dues when there is no "Union Security Clause" in place. (Might want to talk to the defunct airline flight attendants asociation at Northwest about this one.)</p><p><strong>Nov 2006</strong> - willing to prosecute people who disrupt their meetings and give the reward money to APWA members. No question here - this is pretty self explanatory.</p><p> </p><p>What I am trying to get at here is to give the workers enough information to get involved and active enough to check some of this stuff out. The old saying is history repeats itself and the history with national decertification votes here could be Northwest Airlines. Their IBT Local 2000 decerted and went with a flight attendants association. Immediately after the decert the assocation assumed the employer would continue to deduct dues and send them in to the new assocation. The employer llegally refused to do it because there had been no negotiations and there was no union security clause in place. In short, the new association never got off the ground because of lack of funds (no dues) and eventually failed. The end result is that the flight attendants got shafted by the failure of the association after the decert and they had to go looking for another union to come in and represent them. The IBT was approached about this and turned them down claiming they had their chance with the IBT and decerted. Last I heard was they were talking to the Communications Workers and trying to get them to step in. The Northwest flight attendants have had nothing but pay cuts and benefit cuts in the process of all of this.</p><p> </p><p>The moral of the story here is be careful what you ask for - you might just get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barking dog, post: 206102, member: 10253"] [b]Re: Rival union aims to replace Teamsters at UPS[/b] I am still researching old records and newsletters concerning the attorneys travelling and when I find it I'll post it here. In the mean time I have researched old APWA newsletters and found the following: [B]Jul 2005[/B] - When "Our experts" get us something that you need to know, we'll get that information to you asap. Question: Who decides what the workers need to know? Also, the voting directors, managers and executive staff are banned from posting on TNET and Browncafe. Another question: Just what are they trying to hide? Why is this new start up organizstion trying to muzzle it's own staff from the get go? This sounds like business as usual with the IBT. [B]Feb 2006[/B] - APWA has "emloyeed 8 attorneys" and then Founding Charter members (FCM's) have the power to remove anyone from a stewards position to national officer. Question: Where is the money coming from to pay these 8 attorneys? Then, what is the requirement to be a FCM? All I could find is the payment of $150.00 gets you the FCM position. [B]Apr 2006[/B] - newsletter states "our professionals" say they need a massive media campaign between the card signing and vote. Question: Who is funding this massive national media campaign? Where is the money coming from? [B]Aug 2006[/B] - Hired "off duty" policemen to guard their meetings. Question: Once again, where is the money coming from? [B]Oct 2006[/B] - The payment of $150.00 now would waive the payment of initiation fees after the vote. Initiation fees after the vote would be $225.00. Question: How will they even start to collect it or collect dues when there is no "Union Security Clause" in place. (Might want to talk to the defunct airline flight attendants asociation at Northwest about this one.) [B]Nov 2006[/B] - willing to prosecute people who disrupt their meetings and give the reward money to APWA members. No question here - this is pretty self explanatory. What I am trying to get at here is to give the workers enough information to get involved and active enough to check some of this stuff out. The old saying is history repeats itself and the history with national decertification votes here could be Northwest Airlines. Their IBT Local 2000 decerted and went with a flight attendants association. Immediately after the decert the assocation assumed the employer would continue to deduct dues and send them in to the new assocation. The employer llegally refused to do it because there had been no negotiations and there was no union security clause in place. In short, the new association never got off the ground because of lack of funds (no dues) and eventually failed. The end result is that the flight attendants got shafted by the failure of the association after the decert and they had to go looking for another union to come in and represent them. The IBT was approached about this and turned them down claiming they had their chance with the IBT and decerted. Last I heard was they were talking to the Communications Workers and trying to get them to step in. The Northwest flight attendants have had nothing but pay cuts and benefit cuts in the process of all of this. The moral of the story here is be careful what you ask for - you might just get it. [/QUOTE]
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