He is the great negotiator.Take off the rose colored glasses.
Less pay and more work? Wow, sounds like a "great" deal.
He is the great negotiator.Take off the rose colored glasses.
Less pay and more work? Wow, sounds like a "great" deal.
See now, I expect that out of a wage slave like Cactus. You as a former contractor should know better (if you were any good at it).He is the great negotiator.
Not sure I get what your saying.See now, I expect that out of a wage slave like Cactus. You as a former contractor should know better (if you were any good at it).
How do you come up with that?To put in simple terms. It will mean you drivers going from an 8-9 hour day to a 12 hour day for the same pay.
They knock everyone down at transition and with the way they've been acting lately, I would plan on at least a 15% decrease. They screwed us hard at transition, the subsequent negotiations got better but it's turning back the wrong way now. I'd probably only do a 1 year deal from now on, that puts you back in negotiations every 7 months to try and get more.I'm a current contractor who is already at scale and have all of the HD ground overlap but still in the ic model. All of your examples are isp to isp sales or renegotiations. What can we expect going from ic to isp as far as overall compensation?
You might be the only happy contractor left. I'm still in touch with most of the contractors I worked with and not one single one is happy. I still have the bridge if your interested.How do you come up with that?
GrossAre you guys talking gross or net?
Sounds like while you were away grooming soccer fields, Smith came in and bit you in the ass with a 3 - 5% takeaway.See now, I expect that out of a wage slave like Cactus. You as a former contractor should know better (if you were any good at it).
nah. mass hysteria generally works in my favor.Sounds like while you were away grooming soccer fields, Smith came in and bit you in the ass with a 3 - 5% takeaway.
Maybe you oughta' come to work a little more often.
It's pretty straight forward, they put some money on the table, let you shuffle it a bit. Whatever overall value they see in your area doesn't change much no matter what you say. So if on your first round they give you waaaay less revenue, that might mean they undervalued your csa. Negotiator is not one to change that, reach out to your district engineer.I'm a current contractor who is already at scale and have all of the HD ground overlap but still in the ic model. All of your examples are isp to isp sales or renegotiations. What can we expect going from ic to isp as far as overall compensation?
My drivers make mid 40s plus benefits. It all depends on your business model. I got contractors running 100 stops per vehicle with drivers finishing by 2pm bitching about low revenue. That is a part time job you got there with that setup. It's all about quality of life for some guys.Just responding to the original post. With the contracts coming out recently it's a bad time to invest in a Ground route. While the overall pie of revenue and profit is growing FedEx wants our slice to get smaller and smaller. They claim growth will make up for the low rates they want to pay, apparently believing we can get drivers to do 175+ stops a day for $35k/year. They think our trucks can fit 400+ pieces on them a day. They've gone far beyond reasonable and expected greed.
You've missed the point of what I've been saying. I know how to efficiently engineer my routes. What's happening is a route that generates say $2000/week now under a new contract would generate $1600. Same stops and pieces and time, just a dramatic reduction in compensation. Fedex is taking all the profits from the routes. No profit margin means a bad business to invest in.My drivers make mid 40s plus benefits. It all depends on your business model. I got contractors running 100 stops per vehicle with drivers finishing by 2pm bitching about low revenue. That is a part time job you got there with that setup. It's all about quality of life for some guys.
Is that money going into safety/csi?You've missed the point of what I've been saying. I know how to efficiently engineer my routes. What's happening is a route that generates say $2000/week now under a new contract would generate $1600. Same stops and pieces and time, just a dramatic reduction in compensation. Fedex is taking all the profits from the routes. No profit margin means a bad business to invest in.
Nope. I factor it all in when I do my projections. I assume I'll get all of safety and 70% CSI and they are slashing the contract that much.Is that money going into safety/csi?
wow. I just don't understand that at all.Nope. I factor it all in when I do my projections. I assume I'll get all of safety and 70% CSI and they are slashing the contract that much.
That's been the response from everyone I've talked to, from terminal manger, district engineer, district manager. Everyone except the negotiator that thinks it's a reasonable offer. I'm in a position where I don't need to accept it, but it makes me very concerned for the future.wow. I just don't understand that at all.