Iran

I am a teamster of 36 years working for UPS, and I can say without a doubt, that It might be true, that working class blue collar people are to lazy or simply don't have the time to research some facts and are fed information as they let cable TV just wash over them like a nice little blanket!
Do you really think that Iran would use Nuclear weapons on anyone knowing that the only result will be for the complete launch of weapons by the western allies?
I think a little history is in order: In 1933 under the Eisenhower administration, Allen Dulles was sent to overthrow the first Democratically elected government of Mohamad Mossadehgg in Iran! After the overthrow of Mosadehgg, they imprisoned him and then killed him. Then with the continued support of the United States and Briton they installed the Shaw, who at the time was frolicking in the south of France. When the Shaw came to power he began to round up those people that voted to have a democracy, toucher them and even kill them.
Thousands of shaw's own citizens were in fact killed, supported by the USA and Briton!
The Shaw was doing nothing for his people and simply gathering the wealth of Iran for himself and his family and still, the USA and Briton did nothing!
You see, the problem with Mossadehgg, is that he made the biggest sin, according to the USA and Briton. He began to use the resources of Iran to educated and up-lift the Iranian people!
Now we are here, in the present day with the current situation because the USA and Briton had their puppet kicked out and sent back to frolic, to the south of France!
Then, comes the Iran vs Iraq war, were Saddam Hussein, supported by both the USA and Briton ( check the internet and you can find pictures of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam) was sent to start a war with Iran. A war where Saddam used WMD's against the Iranians and the Kurd's provided to him by the USA and Briton, and these are facts for anyone who can turn off the sports channels and read!
Some of my fellow blue collar workers here have been raised on FOX news and have been fed fear and now you have a father figure in the form of Trump. Trump, for the people here who support him, is like the guy who takes a good looking girl to a horror movie. When the scary part comes Trump knows that the girl is going to cling on to him and thats when he has her!
Trump followers are like that girl! You see that girl has not developed enough, as an individual, to where she can distinguish the 30 seconds of thrill and the long term outcome of the movie!
Here is another part of an article for your edification:
Trump is channeling the very tenets about how propaganda works laid out by Hitler in his books. In addition to the collection of speeches and their impact,Mein Kampf has a chapter on the hows and whys of political propaganda. Look at these six excerpts from Ralph Manheim’s 1943 translation that have been put into a “Teachers Guide To The Holocaust” produced by the University of South Florida. Hitler wrote:

  • “The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses’ attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision.”
  • “All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be.”
  • “The more modest its intellectual ballast, the more exclusively it takes into consideration the emotions of the masses, the more effective it will be. And this is the best proof of the soundness or unsoundness of a propaganda campaign, and not success pleasing a few scholars or young aesthetes.”
  • "Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results: It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.”
  • “In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
  • “The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth… its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly.”
 

moreluck

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When the first Iranian hostages were released during the end of the Carter administration and the swearing in day of Reagan, TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars were returned to IRAN for the hostages.

Reagan Sanctioned this release of TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars, but you people think this is the first time the USA has given money to Iran for hostages??


"The 52 Americans were freed as part of a complex agreement that was not completed until early yesterday morning, when the last snags holding up their release were removed by Mr. Carter and his aides, in the final diplomatic action of their Administration.

Under the terms of the accord, as the Algerian plane left Iranian air space, nearly $3 billion of Iranian assets that had been frozen by the United States were returned to Iran, and many more billions of dollars were made available for Iranian repayment of debts.

The 52 Americans were freed only minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as the 40th President of the United States. The concurrence in timing held millions of Americans at their radios and television sets, following the pageantry of Inauguration Day and the news of the hostages’ release.

The negotiators, who had worked around the clock for five days in an effort to bring the crisis to an end before Mr. Carter left office, said that they had no idea whether the Iranians had deliberately dragged out the talks so as to insure that the hostages were not actually in the air until Mr. Reagan was President."


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TOS.
 

moreluck

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For propaganda purposes and a parade, Iran is making fun of those captured sailors. Creepy Kerry actually made a deal with these jerks and thanked them too.
I'm thinking that Beach Boys joke applies now...Bomb, bomb, bomb bomb bomb Iran.....
 

moreluck

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Did I hear right?
The UK is making 40 flights a week to Iran now.....they had cancelled flights there back in 2012.
This can't end well!
 

newfie

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When the first Iranian hostages were released during the end of the Carter administration and the swearing in day of Reagan, TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars were returned to IRAN for the hostages.

Reagan Sanctioned this release of TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars, but you people think this is the first time the USA has given money to Iran for hostages??


"The 52 Americans were freed as part of a complex agreement that was not completed until early yesterday morning, when the last snags holding up their release were removed by Mr. Carter and his aides, in the final diplomatic action of their Administration.

Under the terms of the accord, as the Algerian plane left Iranian air space, nearly $3 billion of Iranian assets that had been frozen by the United States were returned to Iran, and many more billions of dollars were made available for Iranian repayment of debts.

The 52 Americans were freed only minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as the 40th President of the United States. The concurrence in timing held millions of Americans at their radios and television sets, following the pageantry of Inauguration Day and the news of the hostages’ release.

The negotiators, who had worked around the clock for five days in an effort to bring the crisis to an end before Mr. Carter left office, said that they had no idea whether the Iranians had deliberately dragged out the talks so as to insure that the hostages were not actually in the air until Mr. Reagan was President."


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TOS.

So you're saying jimmy carter actually negotiated the terms to release those billions to the Iranians?
 

rickyb

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im rereading old tweets working on a music album:

Iran with 0 nuclear heads negotiating with countries that have all together 16335 nuclear heads
 
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