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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 73321" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: indigo">and your point is? Iran is a neighbor and diplomacy will exist. Its actually part of the region building process I discussed earlier. You have reinforced my point. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">I suggest you study your history a little more carefully ma'am. In fact the nazi's controlled most of the world and only started losing when they were forced to fight a two front war...legitimate or otherwise. In fact if they had not involved the americans and had not layed siege to st. petersburg we may all been speaking german. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">Sigh Neocons? I would think a neo-con knows and listens to the military better than you liberals who only know itfor the camoflauge fatigues you wear with your purple hair and nose rings. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">you need to reread my post. I have no interest in promoting pax-americana nor do I have any interest in supporting a foriegn policy that looks to build an empire. Your criticism reflected on specific failures of foriegn policy. I addressed those points. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">You really need to spend as much time reading my response as you do your links. I never made the comparison of the soviet union to Iran nor of the two differing political systems. I have called our efforts in the middle east one of region building. Europe is in fact a fine example of this concept in practice. We built europe up to the point where it now can stand up on its own two feet with little military support on our part. In the process we slowly destablized the soviet union until it finally collapsed. Thats a point I don't think you can really debate. The same can be done in the middle east. It will take time. To be honest I'm not crazy about the idea that we constantly have to take a leadership position and risk our kids in such a venture. But I do believe it was only a matter of time before we found ourselves involved in that region. Whether now is the right time or not remains to be seen. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">Based on what? What the liberal press tells you? The fact is the news will not run any of the success stories in print or on tv because it does not sell news like watching the horrific results of a suicide bomber. There are many successes in Iraq that our sons and daughters in uniform are bringing about and will never get the credit for from you or your liberal con associates. I really wish you would try to expend as much effort giving our troops some credit for their sucesses as you do trying to bring them down.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">No what has become a laughing stock is how easily people like you will turn on our troops in times like these. Even to the point of embarrassing our soldiors in that prison scandel last year. You liberal cons will eat your young if it means you get the opportunity to piss on your countries conservative ideals. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: indigo">Indeed. Anextremely biased liberal con who is not only out of touch with america but his own country (Israel] and its beliefs when he wrote this. There in lies our difference. He apparently feels that Bush should beimpeached for his foriegn policy yet has apparently not made the same argument for the leadership of Israel who has clearly been much more aggressive in crossing the borders of other countries then the US will ever be. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 73321, member: 1912"] [COLOR=indigo]and your point is? Iran is a neighbor and diplomacy will exist. Its actually part of the region building process I discussed earlier. You have reinforced my point. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]I suggest you study your history a little more carefully ma'am. In fact the nazi's controlled most of the world and only started losing when they were forced to fight a two front war...legitimate or otherwise. In fact if they had not involved the americans and had not layed siege to st. petersburg we may all been speaking german. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]Sigh Neocons? I would think a neo-con knows and listens to the military better than you liberals who only know itfor the camoflauge fatigues you wear with your purple hair and nose rings. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]you need to reread my post. I have no interest in promoting pax-americana nor do I have any interest in supporting a foriegn policy that looks to build an empire. Your criticism reflected on specific failures of foriegn policy. I addressed those points. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]You really need to spend as much time reading my response as you do your links. I never made the comparison of the soviet union to Iran nor of the two differing political systems. I have called our efforts in the middle east one of region building. Europe is in fact a fine example of this concept in practice. We built europe up to the point where it now can stand up on its own two feet with little military support on our part. In the process we slowly destablized the soviet union until it finally collapsed. Thats a point I don't think you can really debate. The same can be done in the middle east. It will take time. To be honest I'm not crazy about the idea that we constantly have to take a leadership position and risk our kids in such a venture. But I do believe it was only a matter of time before we found ourselves involved in that region. Whether now is the right time or not remains to be seen. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]Based on what? What the liberal press tells you? The fact is the news will not run any of the success stories in print or on tv because it does not sell news like watching the horrific results of a suicide bomber. There are many successes in Iraq that our sons and daughters in uniform are bringing about and will never get the credit for from you or your liberal con associates. I really wish you would try to expend as much effort giving our troops some credit for their sucesses as you do trying to bring them down.[/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo][/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]No what has become a laughing stock is how easily people like you will turn on our troops in times like these. Even to the point of embarrassing our soldiors in that prison scandel last year. You liberal cons will eat your young if it means you get the opportunity to piss on your countries conservative ideals. [/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]Indeed. Anextremely biased liberal con who is not only out of touch with america but his own country (Israel] and its beliefs when he wrote this. There in lies our difference. He apparently feels that Bush should beimpeached for his foriegn policy yet has apparently not made the same argument for the leadership of Israel who has clearly been much more aggressive in crossing the borders of other countries then the US will ever be. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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