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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 197666"><p><strong>Working Without a Contract???</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, first the Teamsters organized a worksite, then they were certified as the "exclusive bargaining agent" for the unit, then they *try* to negotiate a first contract. If they can't, then the union will be broken at some point. It's possible to be a "Teamster," and yet not yet have a Teamster contract in place. (Some may say such people shouldn't actually be called Teamsters until they have a signed contract. It's a judgement call.) My Local doesn't require dues to be paid until a contract is signed. </p><p></p><p>But we should get the process straight because the APWA will be doing a similar thing. First they intend to replace the Teamsters as our "exclusive bargaining agent" in an NLRB election. Once the results are finalized; the NLRB certifies them, and decertifies the Teamsters. At that moment (almost) all things Teamster evaporate. The Contract, and all its provisions disapear. We are without a contract. The pension funds continue, because they are independent entities, but our active participation ceases. No further pension credits accrue. The APWA must now try to negotiate a first contract as best they can with UPS. Of course, we would still be protected by all the Laws of the Land: federal, state, and local. We would also be protected by the NLRB's rules that prohibit Unfair Labor Practices. But not by a union contract. The APWA refers to the success of the UPS Airline Pilots as an example, but their negotiations lasted four years without a new contract! </p><p></p><p>It is possible for UPS and the APWA to have handshake agreements on any number of issues during the time after the Teamsters' Contract disolves, but this remains to be seen. The NLRB will give the APWA one year to negotiate a signed contract. After that their protected status of "exclusive bargaining agent" evaporates. If a contract is signed, their protected status lasts almost three years, even if the contract lasts longer. </p><p></p><p>Incidently, Local 705 and Local 710 are both large Chicago area locals and each are a seperate bargaining unit from the single "national master" unit. They are also seperate from each other, so there are actually three UPS bargaining units to deal with. (Not to be confused with Area Supplements.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 197666"] [b]Working Without a Contract???[/b] Yes, first the Teamsters organized a worksite, then they were certified as the "exclusive bargaining agent" for the unit, then they *try* to negotiate a first contract. If they can't, then the union will be broken at some point. It's possible to be a "Teamster," and yet not yet have a Teamster contract in place. (Some may say such people shouldn't actually be called Teamsters until they have a signed contract. It's a judgement call.) My Local doesn't require dues to be paid until a contract is signed. But we should get the process straight because the APWA will be doing a similar thing. First they intend to replace the Teamsters as our "exclusive bargaining agent" in an NLRB election. Once the results are finalized; the NLRB certifies them, and decertifies the Teamsters. At that moment (almost) all things Teamster evaporate. The Contract, and all its provisions disapear. We are without a contract. The pension funds continue, because they are independent entities, but our active participation ceases. No further pension credits accrue. The APWA must now try to negotiate a first contract as best they can with UPS. Of course, we would still be protected by all the Laws of the Land: federal, state, and local. We would also be protected by the NLRB's rules that prohibit Unfair Labor Practices. But not by a union contract. The APWA refers to the success of the UPS Airline Pilots as an example, but their negotiations lasted four years without a new contract! It is possible for UPS and the APWA to have handshake agreements on any number of issues during the time after the Teamsters' Contract disolves, but this remains to be seen. The NLRB will give the APWA one year to negotiate a signed contract. After that their protected status of "exclusive bargaining agent" evaporates. If a contract is signed, their protected status lasts almost three years, even if the contract lasts longer. Incidently, Local 705 and Local 710 are both large Chicago area locals and each are a seperate bargaining unit from the single "national master" unit. They are also seperate from each other, so there are actually three UPS bargaining units to deal with. (Not to be confused with Area Supplements.) [/QUOTE]
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