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<blockquote data-quote="ups_vette" data-source="post: 109161" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p>I've been a part of UPS for over 43 years as a Driver, a Supervisor, a Manager in Operations and I.E., and finally a Retiree. Believe it or not, the same complaints, and bitches I read on this web site today are exactly the same ones employees expressed in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s.</p><p></p><p>While I will admit there are some people in management who should not be there, you will also have to admit that there are some hourly employees who should not be working for UPS.</p><p></p><p>In another thread about a customer calling the 1-800 number, Dannyboy mentioned the kids game where the people are lined up and something is whispered to the first in line and that person whispers it to the next person and so on, till the last person in line hears something entirely different than what was whispered to the first person. For me, that is what happens at UPS. As an example, Time Study at UPS is totally misrepresented and misunderstood because someone tells someone something and then that person puts his/her interpatation on what was said and tells the next person.. This communication continues unchecked till what was originally stated is totally distorted. People have a natural bias against any form of work measurement and will not, can not, believe they are not the best at that job, therefor the measurement is wrong, not them.</p><p></p><p>Another area of complaint is the long work day. Drivers have been complaining about this also from the 60s, nothing new there.</p><p></p><p>Dumb decisions made by management. Yep, another oldie.</p><p></p><p>Promoted unqualified person into supervision. Nothing new.</p><p></p><p>I.E. bunch of pencil pushing geeks. Heard it before.</p><p></p><p>Corporate doesn't understand what we go through. Same ol</p><p>same ol.</p><p></p><p>Seen managers come and go, I'm still here. Please, another phrase from the 60s.</p><p></p><p>I have to be honest though, the topic of pension I've only been hearing that since the late 80s. I guess that's natural since drivers didn't begin to think about retiring before then. I worked in what is refered to as the 8 City Area. The 8 Union Locals, in Central Pa, were all covered by the same agreement and had the 8 City Pension Plan, which was a multi employer plan. Drivers who retired in that area in the early 90s with 30 years of service were lucky if they received $900 a month, and had to pay app. $150 a month for medical coverage.</p><p></p><p>The years may change, the seasons may change, but people never change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ups_vette, post: 109161, member: 2125"] I've been a part of UPS for over 43 years as a Driver, a Supervisor, a Manager in Operations and I.E., and finally a Retiree. Believe it or not, the same complaints, and bitches I read on this web site today are exactly the same ones employees expressed in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. While I will admit there are some people in management who should not be there, you will also have to admit that there are some hourly employees who should not be working for UPS. In another thread about a customer calling the 1-800 number, Dannyboy mentioned the kids game where the people are lined up and something is whispered to the first in line and that person whispers it to the next person and so on, till the last person in line hears something entirely different than what was whispered to the first person. For me, that is what happens at UPS. As an example, Time Study at UPS is totally misrepresented and misunderstood because someone tells someone something and then that person puts his/her interpatation on what was said and tells the next person.. This communication continues unchecked till what was originally stated is totally distorted. People have a natural bias against any form of work measurement and will not, can not, believe they are not the best at that job, therefor the measurement is wrong, not them. Another area of complaint is the long work day. Drivers have been complaining about this also from the 60s, nothing new there. Dumb decisions made by management. Yep, another oldie. Promoted unqualified person into supervision. Nothing new. I.E. bunch of pencil pushing geeks. Heard it before. Corporate doesn't understand what we go through. Same ol same ol. Seen managers come and go, I'm still here. Please, another phrase from the 60s. I have to be honest though, the topic of pension I've only been hearing that since the late 80s. I guess that's natural since drivers didn't begin to think about retiring before then. I worked in what is refered to as the 8 City Area. The 8 Union Locals, in Central Pa, were all covered by the same agreement and had the 8 City Pension Plan, which was a multi employer plan. Drivers who retired in that area in the early 90s with 30 years of service were lucky if they received $900 a month, and had to pay app. $150 a month for medical coverage. The years may change, the seasons may change, but people never change. [/QUOTE]
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