Is it still Bush?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by tieguy, May 21, 2010.

  1. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Markets crashing as investors realize economic improvement was overstated. Unemployment results showing the socialist agenda by this administration is stifling free enterprise and job creation. Trillions spent on economic stimulus all spent for naught.

    Is it still Bush one year and four months later or does Obama finally get some of the blame?
     
  2. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Actually, from what I know. The US banking crises constributed a lot towards Greece's debt.

    It's a very odd market these days. First the US dollar was devaluated, now the Euro. Oh yeah, almost forgot the British pound took a big beating before the Euro did.
    Maybe it's all a good thing though, and the west might be able to compete with Asia (with our currencies getting closer to their standards) !! ?

    I'm still mad at myself, for not cashing out on the markets last week.
    Now, I will ride it out.
     
  3. Just Numbers

    Just Numbers Retired

    Tie, the current administration will never accept any blame for anything. It is always the other guys fault. Once watched a movie called "head office" that had this classic line...I didn't make that decision, I only approved that decision, he made that decision.:happy2:
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    When was the last time any administration accepted any blame for anything?
     
  5. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]President Truman referred to the desk sign in public statements. For example, in an address at the National War College on December 19, 1952 Mr. Truman said, "You know, it's easy for the Monday morning quarterback to say what the coach should have done, after the game is over. But when the decision is up before you -- and on my desk I have a motto which says The Buck Stops Here' -- the decision has to be made." In his farewell address to the American people given in January 1953, President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job."
    [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The Buck Stops Here"[/FONT]
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Exactly.
     
  7. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Fixed it for ya
     
  8. Lue C Fur

    Lue C Fur Evil member


    That is also known as "the Messiah clause".
     
  9. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    i wonder if the unionman still thinks the messiah is the greatest president he has ever seen.
     
  10. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    JOBS? Obama wouldn't know a productive job if the UPS guy delivered it to him. He is flushing jobs down the toilet. Peepeelosi said that bush didn't do enough to produce jobs when the unemployment rate shot up to 4.8%. We had the tech bubble, the housing bubble, next up the govt. bubble? A government bubble would be a devastating bubble to pop.
     
  11. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Probably. We already established that unionman was born on January 20, 2009.
     
  12. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Do you still think he's the worst? What's with everyone on the extremes?
     
  13. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Again, I encourage anyone that wants to be informed about the Global money crises, and stockmarket, and american national debt, plus plenty more, to watch the "Your$$$$$" show on CNN.
    It's on at 11am mountain time. (90 min from now). A repeat is also shown Sundays.

    Trust me, it's very imformative.
     
  14. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    What is that, like 18 times you've told us that......Some people can't get off the cartoon channel. What do you expect?
     
  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    "Trust me, "

    That's Yiddish for........(nevermind)
     
  16. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I'd watch it, but Power Rangers is on at that time.
     
  17. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    When Bush left office, the dow had lost nearly half of it's value. It's recovered half of that loss in ~18 months under Obama. And all without a housing bubble. And the only thing Obama's done that WOULD have any effcet IS the stimulus. And lets not get ahead of ourselves, JOB recovery is always the last leg of recovery....

    I think we can all agree that Reaganomics didn't work....
     
  18. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Regarding jobs, I hear this newest bill passed by congress will create thousands of summer jobs for teens......Oh great, your teens will be working this summer, but YOU won't !!
     
  19. tonyexpress

    tonyexpress Whac-A-Troll Patrol Staff Member

    How about this?

    The fruits of weakness

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    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, center, with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, left, and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. (Vahid Salemi/associated Press)


    That picture -- a defiant, triumphant take-that-Uncle-Sam -- is a crushing verdict on the Obama foreign policy. It demonstrates how rising powers, traditional American allies, having watched this administration in action, have decided that there's no cost in lining up with America's enemies and no profit in lining up with a U.S. president given to apologies and appeasement.

    This is not just an America in decline. This is an America in retreat -- accepting, ratifying and declaring its decline, and inviting rising powers to fill the vacuum.
    Nor is this retreat by inadvertence. This is retreat by design and, indeed, on principle. It's the perfect fulfillment of Obama's adopted Third World narrative of American misdeeds, disrespect and domination from which he has come to redeem us and the world. Hence his foundational declaration at the U.N. General Assembly last September that "No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation" (guess who's been the dominant nation for the last two decades?) and his dismissal of any "world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another." (NATO? The West?)

    Given Obama's policies and principles, Turkey and Brazil are acting rationally. Why not give cover to Ahmadinejad and his nuclear ambitions? As the United States retreats in the face of Iran, China, Russia and Venezuela, why not hedge your bets? There's nothing to fear from Obama, and everything to gain by ingratiating yourself with America's rising adversaries. After all, they actually believe in helping one's friends and punishing one's enemies.
     
  20. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    you just make this up as you go? Reagonimics fixed a recession worse then this one. At this point obamnomics has failed miserably. You and unionman are desperately clinging to a dead duck bounce of the stock market as proof the economy is turning around.

    You hear the water rushing in? feel the ship listing to port? your obama ship is going down.

    so the question is are you still trying to pin this on Bush or are you now giving obama some blame? Don't even try to tell me you think we have an economic recovery taking place?:rofl: