BSWALKS
Fugitive From Reality
Good for another 400,000 now!
Is the VT engine the bane of your existence at UPS?
- Thread starter 1BROWNWRENCH
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Good for another 400,000 now!
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
Acually, I have plenty of those too....got a couple with 102 numbers. Fortunately they are being ADA'd now whenever something expensive comes up like an engine. All I need is a Cummins ISB and my collection will be complete. I have had up to 13 different engines to deal with. Got rid of the old 5 digit hydrovac cars when the frames started to come through the floor a few years ago. I understand I will be getting more old GMCs to take up the slack while my P57s are being remade. Isn't technology great?? Fleet consolodation? What's that??
Sheesh...We got rid of our old fords a few years ago...the ones that started with 316. After that it was bye bye to the old pos 700's that started with 651 and 652. We had only one p10 that had a big block v8 in it...thing hauled balls it was a 114 but had a gas motor that was a beast...our 57's are a joke. Broken frames...radiator brackets break. The motors seem to do ok. We have the gas gm motors. I think they're 4.7? Some of the 5's and the new 7 have a 6 liter...those have some snort to em...but are computer locked at 67 mph...sucks when the speed limit is 70. We have a few of the old 4.3 trucks. 101's and 102's...even 1 800 with the 4.3. Good motors those...just gutless.
We used to have the 47's with the Mercedes motors in them...the rear ends would fry real quick like...although it's because a few of the drivers were only chaining up on wheel and it would spin the spider gears in the rear ends. Stupid people...we had one guy who was extended. He idled up and down the road it seemed...never in a hurry. For sure 100k club guy. Never had a repair order on it. It went 140000 miles with just maintenance, tires, brakes and 1 front axle. Depends on how you use em.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
Sorry.. my thread was aimed at mechanics. The one you have is the MB904 I love so much. Yes, it is a "mercedes" but Detroit Diesel has a big hand in it. You are fortunate to have it.
1BROWNWRENCH
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All the old P47 and 57 Sprinters are being crushed for exactly that reason. Can't take the hammering. If you want to see how tough your product is, let UPS automotive try it!
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
I have 1 old P1 with the Ford 429. Those things were great! Understressed,lots of power,last 300k+ and they never leak oil! Driver loves it and says very little to complain. The P57s you speak of are VERY fragile in the chassis department. Radiators crack open due to flex and the front spring hangers on the driver side like to break away due to inadequate bolts. The 6.0's got lotsa balls but had oiling(fail) isssues before corporate swicthed us to the lighter 10W30 for everything.
Alexcross774
Spinning my wheels.
The Dealer calls them "boat anchors", and it's their product. I was told 250,000 miles would be pretty good for this engine, but most don't last that long. They are next in line for conversion when the VT275 is complete.
1BROWNWRENCH
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My dealership is completely aware what a pile the 365 is too. Any idea what it will be replaced with? I haven't heard anything on the subject, but it can't come soon enough. I could be doing so many other things I think my drivers would appreciate.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
I often joked at the dealer if they had any of those laying about that they could replace the vt engine with that I had just dropped off. I agree. Great engine also.
104Feeder
Phoenix Feeder
They sold about 250,000 Ford 6.0 & 6.4 liters and not all of them had problems (though arguably more than is typical). Plenty of F250's & 350's of that genre on the road in AZ. I think part of the problem is the redneck factor, where these tools think they are driving a Mack truck and just "hammer down" all the time after modifying the engine with programmers & exhaust. Only issue I've ever had is an EGR warranty repair.
I'm amazed anything holds up at UPS as corporate doesn't let anyone do proper warm-ups or cool downs. Then once you are out on road in a package car it's just mash the thottle-stop-start-mash the throttle-repeat. Aren't the same engines in the shifters? Those seem to never break down.
I'm amazed anything holds up at UPS as corporate doesn't let anyone do proper warm-ups or cool downs. Then once you are out on road in a package car it's just mash the thottle-stop-start-mash the throttle-repeat. Aren't the same engines in the shifters? Those seem to never break down.
1BROWNWRENCH
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Far as I know these aren't found in the shifters. All I have seen are Cummins powered except for 1 old pile I had to use when I first started work at UPS. It had a Detroit-Allison 8.2 V8. Another crappy engine. There is an excellent video on Youtube that explains the whole mess and politics about the 6.0. It mentions that the engine was never meant for what it got used for. Do NOT try to put the hot tune programs on them without a headstud kit.
Alexcross774
Spinning my wheels.
On most cars it would be a GM 6.0, but I haven't heard what they would use for the 1200's. Maybe the 8.1?
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
That"s what I'm hoping for too, provided it has an Allison behind it.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
Emissions is the whole reason I even have the 904s. They were sent to my area when they didn't pass new standards in Cali.
I don't think they build the 8.1 anymore.
1BROWNWRENCH
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