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Is there anybody at the wheel at UPS that can pay attention to the real world?
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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 542718" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p>I want to say at first I was on the same page as you about the minimum wage being set in stone, but I did a little research and Danny is closer to right that I was.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="color: Red">You are correct that the contract does not specifically give the company the right to pay more than the minimum, it does however imply that it does.</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="color: Red">From the just past contract"</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot]Article 22 Part time employees[/FONT]</strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot]Sec 5[/FONT]</strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]</strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot](c) The wage rates and increases provided in (a) and (b) shall be a<u> minimum.</u>[/FONT]</strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot](d) All part-time employees governed by this Article shall be provided a[/FONT]</strong></p><p> <strong>[FONT=&quot]<u>minimum</u> daily three and one-half (3-1/2) hour guarantee.[/FONT]</strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">[FONT=&quot]</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></span>[/FONT]</strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">[FONT=&quot]unless the meaning of the word "minimum" changes from (c) to (d) the company has the unilateral ability to pay over the minimum. </span></span></span>[/FONT]<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="color: Red">[FONT=&quot]If the company see fit, the can increase the hours over the guarantee, so why would they not be able to increase the wage rate also.</span></span>[/FONT]</strong><strong>[FONT=&quot]</strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong></p><p><span style="color: Green"></span></p><p><span style="color: Green"></span><span style="color: Green"> Hole #1..In essence what you describe here is a hand shake agreement not a contract. Few contracts are signed that there is not a third and/or more parties involved, keep word...lawyers.</span></p><p><span style="color: Green"> Hole #2.. UPS/Teamsters contract negotiations are done with the full understanding that we, the workers, have delegated the Teamsters as our representatives. You may want to call that </span><span style="color: Green">coercion by an outside third party, I choose to call it negotiating.</span></p><p> <span style="color: Green">I sure don't see your point in the "agreement"</span><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Green"> they currently </span>have". </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">First, the current agreement puts more control in UPS's hands and sure doesn't do as much to protect the employee as past contracts.</span></p><p> <span style="color: DarkGreen">Of course, the company would prefer not to deal with the teamsters, their shyster lawyers would have a field day negotiating with a handful of truck drivers.</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Purple">This whole paragraph is just pure bovine fecal matter and nothing less than insulting diatribe to shoe ill will for fair treatment. It's a waste of time to even reply to.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Purple"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Purple"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Purple"><span style="color: Black">Well, it is obvious to me that you are not a real UPSer, someone that has any intention of doing the right thing. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="color: Purple"><span style="color: Black">I have question for you. Have you ever delivered a route and if yes, how many years did you spend behind the wheel of UPS truck?</span></span> </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 542718, member: 13254"] I want to say at first I was on the same page as you about the minimum wage being set in stone, but I did a little research and Danny is closer to right that I was. [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=Red]You are correct that the contract does not specifically give the company the right to pay more than the minimum, it does however imply that it does. From the just past contract"[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="]Article 22 Part time employees[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="]Sec 5[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="] [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="](c) The wage rates and increases provided in (a) and (b) shall be a[U] minimum.[/U][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="](d) All part-time employees governed by this Article shall be provided a[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][U]minimum[/U] daily three and one-half (3-1/2) hour guarantee.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][FONT="] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][FONT="]unless the meaning of the word "minimum" changes from (c) to (d) the company has the unilateral ability to pay over the minimum. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=Red][FONT="]If the company see fit, the can increase the hours over the guarantee, so why would they not be able to increase the wage rate also.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=Red][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][B][FONT="] [/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][COLOR=Green] Hole #1..In essence what you describe here is a hand shake agreement not a contract. Few contracts are signed that there is not a third and/or more parties involved, keep word...lawyers. Hole #2.. UPS/Teamsters contract negotiations are done with the full understanding that we, the workers, have delegated the Teamsters as our representatives. You may want to call that [/COLOR][COLOR=Green]coercion by an outside third party, I choose to call it negotiating. I sure don't see your point in the "agreement"[/COLOR][COLOR=DarkGreen][COLOR=Green] they currently [/COLOR]have". First, the current agreement puts more control in UPS's hands and sure doesn't do as much to protect the employee as past contracts. Of course, the company would prefer not to deal with the teamsters, their shyster lawyers would have a field day negotiating with a handful of truck drivers. [COLOR=Purple]This whole paragraph is just pure bovine fecal matter and nothing less than insulting diatribe to shoe ill will for fair treatment. It's a waste of time to even reply to. [COLOR=Black]Well, it is obvious to me that you are not a real UPSer, someone that has any intention of doing the right thing. I have question for you. Have you ever delivered a route and if yes, how many years did you spend behind the wheel of UPS truck?[/COLOR][/COLOR] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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