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<blockquote data-quote="bluehdmc" data-source="post: 542800" data-attributes="member: 18471"><p>Pobre Carlos,</p><p>Maybe 47 out of 50 LTL carrier have gone out of business, but can all that be blamed on the teamsters? </p><p>Perhaps deregulation of the trucking industry had something to do with it. After deregulation, Joe Schmoe can start a trucking business, under bid union carrier, pay drivers less, offer no benefits, run junk trucks and put union carriers out of business. </p><p>I will grant you ICC authorities were rediculous but what has deregulation done for the airline industry? </p><p>Lower fares for consumers, but now isn't maintenance outsourced where possible to overseas. Or you get a situation like in Buffalo this past winter, where the co-pilot I believe was working 2 jobs, (wasn't 1 as a waitress, where she actually made more than the salary the airline was paying). </p><p>Is it entirely the UAW's fault the "big 3" are where they are today. Didn't the automakers agree to the terms of union contracts? Didn't the automakers also make gas guzzlers? GM started Saturn, "a new kinda car from a new kinda car company"? which has never made a profit? Didn't GM also start Hummer? another moneymaker. Ford made the expediton, navigator, and how many other gas guzzlers? </p><p>Remember Ford made the Edsel. Which in and of itself wasn't a bad car, really just a Mercury with a weird grill, but the hype before it was introduced, that it was going to be "the latest, greatest, whatever", then the disappointment when it came out. That sort of manufacturing/marketing philosophy is what drives Detroit today. That's what killed them more than the UAW. Maybe "big business" killed big business. Quantity over quality. </p><p>Also the US automakers don't seem to sell to younger people, I think Buicks average buyer is 55 yrs old. </p><p>When Chrysler came out with the pt cruiser, they thought younger people would buy them, but more older people did. </p><p>Maybe their marketing people aren't doing their jobs. It used to be Pontiac, "we build excitement", now they're on the chopping block. In the mid 80's Oldsmobile was one of GM's best selling lines, now they are gone. At one time the oldest name in America, dating back to 1903. </p><p>I read an article about Datsun, (before they changed the name to Nissan), back in the 70's. They would not introduce a model in the US until all the parts to repair it were available in the country. Supposedly they actually built an entire car through the spare parts inventory to prove it. </p><p>That's what killed the US auto industry, lack of customer service, lack of marketing excitement (for lack of a better word), not just the UAW. Although it makes it easier to believe the media hype about Union workers making $xx per hour driving manufacturers out of business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bluehdmc, post: 542800, member: 18471"] Pobre Carlos, Maybe 47 out of 50 LTL carrier have gone out of business, but can all that be blamed on the teamsters? Perhaps deregulation of the trucking industry had something to do with it. After deregulation, Joe Schmoe can start a trucking business, under bid union carrier, pay drivers less, offer no benefits, run junk trucks and put union carriers out of business. I will grant you ICC authorities were rediculous but what has deregulation done for the airline industry? Lower fares for consumers, but now isn't maintenance outsourced where possible to overseas. Or you get a situation like in Buffalo this past winter, where the co-pilot I believe was working 2 jobs, (wasn't 1 as a waitress, where she actually made more than the salary the airline was paying). Is it entirely the UAW's fault the "big 3" are where they are today. Didn't the automakers agree to the terms of union contracts? Didn't the automakers also make gas guzzlers? GM started Saturn, "a new kinda car from a new kinda car company"? which has never made a profit? Didn't GM also start Hummer? another moneymaker. Ford made the expediton, navigator, and how many other gas guzzlers? Remember Ford made the Edsel. Which in and of itself wasn't a bad car, really just a Mercury with a weird grill, but the hype before it was introduced, that it was going to be "the latest, greatest, whatever", then the disappointment when it came out. That sort of manufacturing/marketing philosophy is what drives Detroit today. That's what killed them more than the UAW. Maybe "big business" killed big business. Quantity over quality. Also the US automakers don't seem to sell to younger people, I think Buicks average buyer is 55 yrs old. When Chrysler came out with the pt cruiser, they thought younger people would buy them, but more older people did. Maybe their marketing people aren't doing their jobs. It used to be Pontiac, "we build excitement", now they're on the chopping block. In the mid 80's Oldsmobile was one of GM's best selling lines, now they are gone. At one time the oldest name in America, dating back to 1903. I read an article about Datsun, (before they changed the name to Nissan), back in the 70's. They would not introduce a model in the US until all the parts to repair it were available in the country. Supposedly they actually built an entire car through the spare parts inventory to prove it. That's what killed the US auto industry, lack of customer service, lack of marketing excitement (for lack of a better word), not just the UAW. Although it makes it easier to believe the media hype about Union workers making $xx per hour driving manufacturers out of business. [/QUOTE]
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